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Originally Posted by AllGamer View Post

ok, so I just came up with this, pardon the horrible hand drawings tongue.gif

I believe this should work right?
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Just to let you know, EK sells a monoblock for the gigabyte Z1 board. Could save you a lot of tubing. Here is a picture of mine:



Also, is there a reason you are getting the more expensive Gigabyte Gaming G1 over the Gaming 7 besides for the integrated water cooling? Looks like you are only doing dual GPU's so I'd take a look at the Gigabyte G1 Gaming 7 which is what I have. Still has a lot of nice features and is only $200.
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Originally Posted by RavageTheEarth View Post

Just to let you know, EK sells a monoblock for the gigabyte Z1 board. Could save you a lot of tubing. Here is a picture of mine:

Also, is there a reason you are getting the more expensive Gigabyte Gaming G1 over the Gaming 7 besides for the integrated water cooling? Looks like you are only doing dual GPU's so I'd take a look at the Gigabyte G1 Gaming 7 which is what I have. Still has a lot of nice features and is only $200.

Thanks! for the advice, I'll surely look into using one of those.

As you said, I got attracted to the Top End G1 because of the stock built-in water block for the VRM, and LED show tongue.gif

but if the less expensive models still has the LED Show, and a great monoblock for it, I'd definitely consider that.

so...
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fb-ga-z170x-monoblock-nickel ($140)
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835&cm_re=Gaming_7-_-13-128-835-_-Product ($195)

it works out to aprox $350, while the G1 is aprox $500+ biggrin.gif

yup, the decision is easy
going the monoblock way, also saves 4 extra fittings, which I can use elsewhere, that's roughly $35 in savings by not having to buy extra fittings.
Edited by AllGamer - 6/10/16 at 7:36am
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Thanks! for the advice, I'll surely look into using one of those.

As you said, I got attracted to the Top End G1 because of the stock built-in water block for the VRM, and LED show tongue.gif

but if the less expensive models still has the LED Show, and a great monoblock for it, I'd definitely consider that.

so...
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fb-ga-z170x-monoblock-nickel ($140)
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835&cm_re=Gaming_7-_-13-128-835-_-Product ($195)

it works out to aprox $350, while the G1 is aprox $500+ biggrin.gif

yup, the decision is easy
going the monoblock way, also saves 4 extra fittings, which I can use elsewhere, that's roughly $35 in savings by not having to buy extra fittings.

Yep! Not to mention the money you will save on fittings. The monoblock is fantastic. CPU never goes over 46C overclocked at 4.4Ghz/1.22v. Just make sure to realize that the right inlet of the block must be used as the inlet while the left side is used as an outlet.
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Lol your thinking in extremes.

the air coming from one rad is NOT going to be hot to such an extent, CERTAINLY not enough to have any withstanding impact on the other radiator, let alone to entirely belay its existence in the system at all.

The point of a radiator is to cool, and remove heat, not just push it someplace else....

sorry, I just feel like far too often I see in discussions that the bigger picture gets easily overlooked. I feel as though another example of this would be perhaps, people emphasising component order.... in theory i could see how people could logically make a case for it, but in reality its just really overzealous scientific methods rearing their faces.


I only stated that you don't want the warm exhaust from one radiator feeding another radiator if possible. In the case of my build, a rear 140 rad was being fed warm air the way I had it set up. Removing the rad completely improved my temps under load and improved the overall layout of my build. It improved my temps just enough to get another 100MHz on my overclock with one less radiator. That is worth consideration in my experience.

I know it is the most extreme example, but look at Radiator-Sandwich testing
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I know it is the most extreme example, but look at Radiator-Sandwich testing

OMG! I can't believe it

Single Fans actually performs better than sandwiched fans....

with that in mind, now I feel more confident with the EK plans i posted earlier 600mm surface area should do just fine.

On that Water Test Chart it also demonstrated something I always pondered about.

It seems like the difference of using a Thick double size radiator, vs.a Thin skinny radiator makes very little difference.

Definitely the intake of cold air as short and quick as possible, seems to have the most efficiency.
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I have the G1. Just a warning that GB is the new EVGA in terms of mb bios.
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I have the G1. Just a warning that GB is the new EVGA in terms of mb bios.

Their new BIOS is fairly good though, I got an x99 Phoenix SLI and a memory problem aside (quickly solved via beta BIOS) it's done everything my RVE could.
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Z97 took a bit of effort and so far Z170 as well. Currently, I'm running a version that works good with auto oc, but xmp is broken. One of the newest versions does fix xmp, but for me (and I read a few others) it doesn't last and immediately crashes. Furthermore, in my case, auto oc is unstable as well. I didn't have much trouble with Z87 (Sniper 5) as well as Z77 (Sniper 3).


I'm sticking with this board primarily for the looks and the onboard audio chip. I could go with a RVE as Asus has always been more solid and I have a ribbon cable to add a sound card despite upgrading eventually to 4-way.


I do like the fact that Z97 and Z170 had g1/4 ports instead of the fixed barbs of the Sniper 5 Z87.
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I've had no issues with my TridentZ 3400Mhz using the XMP profile on my Gigabyte G1 Gaming 7. I flashed the F7 (Maybe F6?) UEFI firmware immediately after installing the motherboard. I don't use auto OC though and don't really have any interest in it so I can't speak for that. Overclocking has been very easy too and I haven't encountered any bugs. As many people say, my only issue is that the BIOS is very bland, but it's not a big deal to me because I spend most of my time actually using the computer.
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Z97 took a bit of effort and so far Z170 as well. Currently, I'm running a version that works good with auto oc, but xmp is broken. One of the newest versions does fix xmp, but for me (and I read a few others) it doesn't last and immediately crashes. Furthermore, in my case, auto oc is unstable as well. I didn't have much trouble with Z87 (Sniper 5) as well as Z77 (Sniper 3).

Oh yeah, I still can't get over the terrible BIOS on my Z97N-WIFI. No amount of BIOS updates or tinkering could save that thing, so it is not doing just cooler/block demonstrations more often than not.
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