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While it is encouraged and even optimal to have the Res before the Pump, it's not 100% doable in some aspects. It really doesn't matter where the Res is so long as it's supplying coolant in the loop. The biggest issue of note is out of the Res to Pump order, the loop will take longer to fill and rid itself of all the little bubbles. So if out of order, make sure to tilt the case to the angle that will accommodate keeping the pump lubricated. This is 100% the key to pump operation and health. Run pumps dry at your own peril and expense.

Some instances where it's not doable? I have one. In a mITX or SFF build where space isn't at a premium. But so long as the Res is always higher than the pump it should be a non issue. Another is that some builders can only put their Res alongside the I/O slots in their case above their PSU where pumps are not easily mounted. thumb.gif

I would recommend however that it be set up pump after Res whenever possible. cheers.gif

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I've had no issues with my TridentZ 3400Mhz using the XMP profile on my Gigabyte G1 Gaming 7. I flashed the F7 (Maybe F6?) UEFI firmware immediately after installing the motherboard. I don't use auto OC though and don't really have any interest in it so I can't speak for that. Overclocking has been very easy too and I haven't encountered any bugs. As many people say, my only issue is that the BIOS is very bland, but it's not a big deal to me because I spend most of my time actually using the computer.

My sticks are on the qvl list but still, the board is flaky. I've seen more stable 7 models, but then again, there's fewer G1's. I found a forum where the owner was having the exact same issue and GB sent a beta but he ended up with the same symptoms I have. Since xmp is broken, it runs at default 2133 and I don't mind since cpu oc'ing is more important to me. Once I get my gpu setup going, I'll tinker with xmp and bios again.
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Oh yeah, I still can't get over the terrible BIOS on my Z97N-WIFI. No amount of BIOS updates or tinkering could save that thing, so it is not doing just cooler/block demonstrations more often than not.

yeah, don't know why GB bios are not solid like in the past or compared to other big player brands such as Asus and MSI. This will be my final GB board as I rather stick with Asus for the reliability I had with them before.
post #15993 of 21256
Not sure they have ever been solid werm. But that's as debatable as what color the sky is. thumb.gif

Better watch out though. Simply saying "ASUS" is grounds for summary execution to some. biggrin.gif lol

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Not sure they have ever been solid werm. But that's as debatable as what color the sky is. thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Z97 took a bit of effort and so far Z170 as well. Currently, I'm running a version that works good with auto oc, but xmp is broken. One of the newest versions does fix xmp, but for me (and I read a few others) it doesn't last and immediately crashes. Furthermore, in my case, auto oc is unstable as well. I didn't have much trouble with Z87 (Sniper 5) as well as Z77 (Sniper 3).


I'm sticking with this board primarily for the looks and the onboard audio chip. I could go with a RVE as Asus has always been more solid and I have a ribbon cable to add a sound card despite upgrading eventually to 4-way.


I do like the fact that Z97 and Z170 had g1/4 ports instead of the fixed barbs of the Sniper 5 Z87.


edit: on the initial bios, I couldn't boot with four sticks on the G1. After trying one dimm at a time, it finally worked, updated to near-recent bios (what I'm using now) and proceeded. So ram issues were there right out of the box. I'm a sucker for looks, and this damn thing is too purrrrrttttttyyy to get rid of tongue.gif
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Not sure they have ever been solid werm. But that's as debatable as what color the sky is. thumb.gif

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Z97 took a bit of effort and so far Z170 as well. Currently, I'm running a version that works good with auto oc, but xmp is broken. One of the newest versions does fix xmp, but for me (and I read a few others) it doesn't last and immediately crashes. Furthermore, in my case, auto oc is unstable as well. I didn't have much trouble with Z87 (Sniper 5) as well as Z77 (Sniper 3).


I'm sticking with this board primarily for the looks and the onboard audio chip. I could go with a RVE as Asus has always been more solid and I have a ribbon cable to add a sound card despite upgrading eventually to 4-way.


I do like the fact that Z97 and Z170 had g1/4 ports instead of the fixed barbs of the Sniper 5 Z87.

ASUS had their issues with "barbs" as well though. I remember Formula 3(dinky barbs) and Intel RoG board or 2 with them as well. It was actually us RoG owners who gave input that got them to change that on the RoG site. I was one of those members who gave input on the matter. Because I never understood why when they were working with EK to provide reasonable heatsinks, they wouldn't put G1/4 threads on them when most watercoolers were already working with the G1/4 format and likely would have the extra G1/4 fittings on hand to use with MB blocks. biggrin.gif

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nah, I'm talking about bios dude.


As for Asus, they're not perfect, but their bios are great. Case in point of dropping the ball; using aluminum on one of the Max Formula boards. Tg Ek made a block for it and Asus switched to copper shortly after that. Lol, they tried pulling a fast one like Corsair Aluminum ram blocks biggrin.gif
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So your saying hot air can cool a radiator just as good as ambient air?

Uh, no.... -_-

What I was saying, to me at least, felt pretty clear.
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Originally Posted by kl6mk6 View Post

I only stated that you don't want the warm exhaust from one radiator feeding another radiator if possible. In the case of my build, a rear 140 rad was being fed warm air the way I had it set up. Removing the rad completely improved my temps under load and improved the overall layout of my build. It improved my temps just enough to get another 100MHz on my overclock with one less radiator. That is worth consideration in my experience.

I know it is the most extreme example, but look at Radiator-Sandwich testing

Oh gotcha, and im actually familiar with the stacking tests like those, i shoulda mentioned that i was somewhat speaking in general and using the scenario to make a point. Certainly stacking isnt a great idea.
Edited by Nichismo - 6/10/16 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

I have the G1. Just a warning that GB is the new EVGA in terms of mb bios.

ASUS isn't doing any better on Z170 so far from personal experience and from feedback here and other sources. I have only used one GB board recently and it was find BIOS wise but had a sound issue that was just too ruthless to ignore so it had to go. In fact it seems almost all vendors Z170 chipsets have plenty of bugs and issues still of varying types. What about the GB BIOS do you not like? I mean my Deluxe hangs and forgets settings randomly(replaced CMOS battery and tried every BIOS version) so there really isn't anything worse than that...oh wait there is....the board is hard tubed in because it decided to wait weeks before having these issues. biggrin.gif

That work of art in my sig is a paperweight until I can figure out what board to replace that junk with....I'm considering going full plebian and going back to Z97 with an i7 and using QDC fittings and soft tubing just to make life easier if I need to pull another board. I would even go X79 or X99 as long as the board is rock solid stable. I miss my P67 build...the thing never had a single issue and would be fine today with just an upgraded GPU.....it was an ugly looking system though. Kung Fury is a work of art but sadly it is non functional. mad.gif
Edited by Thoth420 - 6/10/16 at 11:41pm
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I've personally had zero issues in x99, also I've heard nothing but complaints about the Max VIII Hero (non alpha)
     
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I've personally had zero issues in x99, also I've heard nothing but complaints about the Max VIII Hero (non alpha)
Good to know, may go that route. The Z170 boards seem vastly immature overall.
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