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After a bit more testing that it seems the temps are still bad.. Well I don't know what to do anymore so any ideas again would be great.. sitting idle in the main menu of Dragon Age Inquisition had temps at about 70 - 75 and running benchmark again it got up to 93 degrees. This was with the 4.6ghz 1.35 voltage overclock. Something is really wrong and I can't for the life of me figure it out.

Here's the loop before I switched the CPU outlet and inlet so just ignore that
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



Well I would change the loop runs like this, although I don't think that is causing your issue, it just looks better imo. pump > front rad > top rad > cpu > res



have you checked the pump speed and reapplied the TIM?
 
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post #16952 of 21108
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@akira749

The EK-Supremacy EVO - Nickel is out of stock again frown.gif




I'm so close to finalizing my parts order list.
I only need to make up my mind which type of Tube and Fittings I want to use, then I can finalize the order.


I was actually thinking of mixing PETG for the visually visible areas, and Soft Tubing for the non visible areas, like inside the S8 Pedestal,
but then I figured, if i'm going to be hiding the tubes, like we do with wires,
then might as well use Soft Tube for everything and that will make it easier to run the tubes along the case edges and sides, and hide them behind the rads.

Deciding how I'll run the tubes, will affect which type of fittings I'll need, for the type of tubes I'll be using...

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D you have a MicroCenter near you? (That's if you're stateside)

I wish, I'm in Canada

Microcenter was here for a shot while a many many years back (10+ years ago), they closed down business after a couple of years, not enough business I guess.
mah, same thing happened to Kmart, Radioshack, Target, etc...
Not many businesses survives long here, except Walmart and Home Depot, these two spreads out like rabbits.

For computer parts I can get them easy, but not for Watercooling stuff, is not as popular on this side of the border.
Dazmode has them in stock:
https://www.dazmode.com/store/product/ek-supremacy-evo-full-nickel/
They also have the CSQ version:
https://www.dazmode.com/store/product/ek-supremacy-evo-full-nickel-original-csq/

I purchased mine from Daz, along with the naked die kit.
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post #16953 of 21108
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Alright. I've gone and benchmarked stock speeds and the same overclock I had before. It's better but I'll need your opinions on it. I used 3 different monitor programs and they all showed different on the benchmarks. I used Asus AI Suite 3, NZXT Cam and HWMonitor. Any suggestions to what programs I should use to monitor would be nice.

The first test at 4.6ghz 1.35 voltage was odd since I got 3 different temps from 3 different programs (all running at the same time).

Asus AI Suite: 67 degrees
NZXT Cam: 75 degrees
HWMonitor: 80 degrees

The second test at 4ghz 1.28 voltage ended up being:

Asus AI Suite: 58 degrees
NZXT Cam: Crashed during but last number was 65 degrees I think
HWMonitor: 70 degrees

So the numbers are a bit odd and clearly one of the programs is lying to me. Not sure which one to believe. I have an Asus Z170 Deluxe motherboard, if that makes much of a difference.

Thanks! biggrin.gif

Try HWinfo64 and look for core package, this program will also show the other readouts from the other sensors like cpu under the Asus MB section (fan speeds in bios and AI suite use this one)
Also if your temp jump up quickly with load your block may have poor contact with cpu (assuming paste job is adequate). That block in your pics looks like it could be resting on some caps on the left hand side, preventing good contact. Good luck
post #16954 of 21108
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Originally Posted by buellersdayoff View Post

Try HWinfo64 and look for core package, this program will also show the other readouts from the other sensors like cpu under the Asus MB section (fan speeds in bios and AI suite use this one)
Also if your temp jump up quickly with load your block may have poor contact with cpu (assuming paste job is adequate). That block in your pics looks like it could be resting on some caps on the left hand side, preventing good contact. Good luck

If you run these together they don't give accurate results. You should only run 1 monitor at a time.
I like HWmonitor because it gives the highest results and I don't like frying my chip...
Also, I have an EVGA mobo that shows CPU package temps on the board and it's really close to what hwmonitor is telling me, so I believe it.
Some monitors need you to enter TJ max to get accurate monitoring.

Hope this helps! smile.gif

ps: I'm straying from EK kit with a new res (aquatube) and a new rad (xspc - it's crossflow), but I did buy a new nano block from EK smile.gif
Put it together today.

post #16955 of 21108
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Well I would change the loop runs like this, although I don't think that is causing your issue, it just looks better imo. pump > front rad > top rad > cpu > res



have you checked the pump speed and reapplied the TIM?

I agree with your thoughts on the tubing however as I'll be addig a GPU wasterblock from EK when they release it the tubing will have to look like this anyway. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by buellersdayoff View Post

Try HWinfo64 and look for core package, this program will also show the other readouts from the other sensors like cpu under the Asus MB section (fan speeds in bios and AI suite use this one)
Also if your temp jump up quickly with load your block may have poor contact with cpu (assuming paste job is adequate). That block in your pics looks like it could be resting on some caps on the left hand side, preventing good contact. Good luck

It seems you are right about the block. However makeshift my method was I used a small sheet of paper to try and get under the block and it wouldn't go past the caps. This seems to be the problem. I didn't want to use an EK block since I don't really (I hate them) like the aesthetics of them. If anyone knows if the EK Supremacy EVO block fits my Asus Z170 Deluxe that would be great!
Edited by Kviisten - 8/12/16 at 2:09am
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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Well I would change the loop runs like this, although I don't think that is causing your issue, it just looks better imo. pump > front rad > top rad > cpu > res



have you checked the pump speed and reapplied the TIM?

I agree with your thoughts on the tubing however as I'll be addig a GPU wasterblock from EK when they release it the tubing will have to look like this anyway. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by buellersdayoff View Post

Try HWinfo64 and look for core package, this program will also show the other readouts from the other sensors like cpu under the Asus MB section (fan speeds in bios and AI suite use this one)
Also if your temp jump up quickly with load your block may have poor contact with cpu (assuming paste job is adequate). That block in your pics looks like it could be resting on some caps on the left hand side, preventing good contact. Good luck

It seems you are right about the block. However makeshift my method was I used a small sheet of paper to try and get under the block and it wouldn't go past the caps. This seems to be the problem. I didn't want to use an EK block since I don't really (I hate them) like the aesthetics of them. If anyone knows if the EK Supremacy EVO block fits my Asus Z170 Deluxe that would be great!

Could try rotating the block 90°
post #16957 of 21108
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I wish, I'm in Canada

Microcenter was here for a shot while a many many years back (10+ years ago), they closed down business after a couple of years, not enough business I guess.
mah, same thing happened to Kmart, Radioshack, Target, etc...
Not many businesses survives long here, except Walmart and Home Depot, these two spreads out like rabbits.

For computer parts I can get them easy, but not for Watercooling stuff, is not as popular on this side of the border.

I don't remember why Kmart left Canada, but RadioShack was bought out (they're known as "The Source" stores nowadays), and all Target stores across Canada were closed not even two years after opening up because they rolled out way too many stores without the appropriate logistics network in place. They also didn't bring their "legendary" low pricing with them to Canada (they were rather expensive to shop at) so combine that with virtually no stock on the shelves when they opened (and even weeks or months later) and you have a recipient for a company that is going to bleed money until it's supply lines can actually keep up.

As for water cooling, we have NCIX, MemoryExpress (although they prefer to deal with aio/clc coolers only), and of course DazMode... We used to have two others, but Bigfoot Computers shut down ages ago (can't remember why off the top of my head, but it caught a number of people off guard) and there was one other one that specialized in enthusiast cooling that I can't remember the name of. One problem a lot of retailers can face is that there's such a wide variety of sku's to stock combined with the market moving relatively fast for upgrade possibilities alongside the fact that due to our dollar we tend to see cards averaging around 25% more than American pricing.... It can be a somewhat tough market to stay alive in.

I also suspect water cooling isn't as "popular" in Canada due not just because of how it seems a lot more expensive but also because of the simple fact that on average our temperatures are cooler overall.
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post #16958 of 21108
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Could try rotating the block 90°

You're goddamn right.

Unfortunately I had to kind of mess up the tubing a bit more to do that but that worked perfectly! Thanks to you and everyone else who has been kind enough to help me battle this issue, despite it being so silly in the end. I'll blame it on my low experience with watercooling biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

The temps are great now, no OC maxes out at roughly 50 degrees and same OC as before (4.6ghz 1.35 voltage) maxed out at 65 on realtemp which is a little jumpy but I trust it fully.

Again, thanks everyone and let's hope this is my last post in this thread or forum haha! thumb.gif
post #16959 of 21108
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Originally Posted by buellersdayoff View Post

Could try rotating the block 90°

You're goddamn right.

Unfortunately I had to kind of mess up the tubing a bit more to do that but that worked perfectly! Thanks to you and everyone else who has been kind enough to help me battle this issue, despite it being so silly in the end. I'll blame it on my low experience with watercooling biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

The temps are great now, no OC maxes out at roughly 50 degrees and same OC as before (4.6ghz 1.35 voltage) maxed out at 65 on realtemp which is a little jumpy but I trust it fully.

Again, thanks everyone and let's hope this is my last post in this thread or forum haha! thumb.gif

Nice one :thumbup:
post #16960 of 21108
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While it usually does not matter. Blanket statements like that are very poor choices.

My loops ( multiple ) take 2-4 gal and I know of people (and eventually i want to do one ) that do geothermal pcs with alot more water then that.

Either way I would rather have the extra room then not
none at all again above the inlet level preferred (or a big enough res that it does not matter )

It's not a blanket statement. It's fundamental physics... gas increases in volume and pressure with temp as well, so that little bit of air you are leaving in the top of the reservoir, yeah, it's expanding and increasing the pressure as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-Lussac%27s_law

As a side note, if you are seeing even a 20 C delta in your coolant with 2 to 4 gallons you are doing it wrong.

P.S. you aren't the only person who has done massive multi-gallon loops:

edited due to being un-constructive and rude. Let me see if I can get a hold of Darlene, she's the expert on large loops around here on OCN, that should solve the debate.
Edited by DNMock - 8/12/16 at 9:44am
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