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Originally Posted by whitrzac View Post

What is EK's coolant made of?

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3830046999658.pdf
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SECTION 13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
13.1. Waste treatment methods
13.1.1. Product / Packaging disposal
Waste chemical
Disposal must be made according to official regulations: to leave it to authorized collector/remover/transformer of hazardous
waste.
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post #17242 of 21128
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Official regulation for the state of WI:
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You must have permission from the wastewater treatment plant before discharging used antifreeze to the sanitary sewer



Did you look what the primary component of EK's coolant is? wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Entertaining coversation Benji. Totally agree with everything you said.

I have two arguments against using AntiFreeze.

1st is Rather simple...

What is the definition of those two words? Anti is "To halt or stop, or "Against". Yeah there are more definitions for that one word but I will use the base definition of "Stop"

Freeze is even simpler to define. Since water Freezes @ 0c or 32F. and since NO computer system short of one going for an LN2 record or not running a Water Chiller will reach 0c w/o assistance there is zero reason to use such things. Especially when Biocide, AntiCorrosives and Distilled are cheaper than the cheapest AF on the market.

2nd is this and I love when this rebuttal comes up..." Why is something that has been used since the beginning of Watercooling not good enough now?", well maybe because back when Water Cooling first started out, most every component had some form of aluminum in it. Radiator? Check. CPU blocks? Check. Chipset blocks? Check. And rubber tubing and small pond pumps running coolant through aluminum barbs. There was no reason not to run the stuff, since most everything used came from a small car or motorcycle. But now we're so far along from concept and cobbling cooling loops together from junk/salvage yards. People run dyes, they run clear tubing, they run all sorts of things that have evolved over the years. Remember when a cooling block didn't have channels in them?

Antiquated coolant belongs with antiquated hardware. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

What is EK's coolant made of?

EK's coolant is made by Mayhem's and last I heard Mayhem's doesn't use AntiFreeze. If that's what you're getting at. thinking.gif

ThermalFake on the other hand used AntiFreeze in their Big Water systems. wink.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
 
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Official regulation for the state of WI:
Did you look what the primary component of EK's coolant is? wink.gif

Educate me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerol in their pastel
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

EK's coolant is made by Mayhem's and last I heard Mayhem's doesn't use AntiFreeze. If that's what you're getting at. thinking.gif

ThermalFake on the other hand used AntiFreeze in their Big Water systems. wink.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Post the MSDs sheet.

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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

Educate me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerol in their pastel

Taken directly from the MSDs sheet you posted for EK-Ekoolant EVO (premix 1L)

ethanediol 8-9%
Common name: Ethylene glycol
http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=107-21-1


And the funny part
From EK's MSDs
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According to the regulation, the chemical is not classified as dangerous. Safety data sheet available for professional user on
request.

From the main ingrediant's MSDs
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Acute toxicity (Oral) Category 4 H302 Harmful if swallowed.
Specific target organ
toxicity - repeated
exposure (Oral)

Category 2 H373 May cause damage to organs through
prolonged or repeated exposure if
swallowed

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiGtoeOz-rOAhUJ42MKHVg4AM0QFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meglobal.biz%2Fassets%2FMEG%2520PE%2520Grade%2520MSDS%2520UK%2520-%2520English%2520Version.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGgA4vc00xXdxHhMH4G8UC7tfBGRA&sig2=-md-zc7gsSY55xlKB2efZg
Edited by whitrzac - 8/30/16 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by whitrzac View Post

Post the MSDs sheet.
Taken directly from the MSDs sheet you posted for EK-Ekoolant EVO (premix 1L)

ethanediol 8-9%
Common name: Ethylene glycol
http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=107-21-1


And the funny part

This is the funny part, it doesn't say its safe to dispose of it down a drain or toilet anywhere in that document at all?
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Your completely missing the elephant in the room.

EK's coolant is antifreeze, it even uses the amazingly toxic Ethylene glycol that you've been tolling about rather than the less toxic propylene glycol the other brands use. . biggrin.gif
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I just ordered 6 liters of EK EVO Clear, woohoo, can't wait to try it in my Mopar!!

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Your completely missing the elephant in the room.

EK's coolant is antifreeze, it even uses the amazingly toxic Ethylene glycol that you've been tolling about rather than the less toxic propylene glycol the other brands use. . biggrin.gif

But, it does say to dispose of it correctly? Not by dumping it into the environment and our drinking sources? I don't understand why you can't understand this?
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But, it does say to dispose of it correctly? Not by dumping it into the environment and our drinking sources? I don't understand why you can't understand this?

It does say to dispose of it properly; and properly, according to the national, state, and local regulations, say to dump small amounts into the sewer with approval from the local wastewater treatment plant.


Yes, when I lived in town I actually called to verify that it wasn't a myth. I was told it had to be clean(no oil/etc in it) and to keep it to a minimum. No exact amount was given.
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