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It does say to dispose of it properly; and properly, according to the national, state, and local regulations, say to dump small amounts into the sewer with approval from the local wastewater treatment plant.


Yes, when I lived in town I actually called to verify that it wasn't a myth. I was told it had to be clean(no oil/etc in it) and to keep it to a minimum. No exact amount was given.

The correct way is to recycle it here in England, not to dump it into our environment. And how much antifreeze is in the EK coolant compared to your 50/50?

I wan't to know so please educate me on the matter.
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The correct way is to recycle it here in England, not to dump it into our environment. And how much antifreeze is in the EK coolant compared to your 50/50?

I wan't to know so please educate me on the matter.

About 12.5% Filled the res once, let it pump. Filled the res 3 more times with distilled water.


They don't have wastewater treatment plants where you are? That's really nasty... Didn't someone in europe invent the toilet? biggrin.gif
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About 12.5% Filled the res once, let it pump. Filled the res 3 more times with distilled water.


They don't have wastewater treatment plants where you are? That's really nasty... Didn't someone in europe invent the toilet? biggrin.gif

We have waste management, we have a lot of recycling points too where we can dispose of harmful chemicals such as antifreeze and oil etc that are found in cars and motorcycles. I fear for the future of our planet when challenged to understand what you're doing is harmful and causes issues with the treatment of the very essential things that keeps us as humans alive you simply can't see past your own nose because Jim down the plant said it's "Okay" without giving you numbers to go off.

One person doing something might be fine, what do I know? But then once more and more people start doing it... well that's a whole different story really isn't it.

Isn't the water in America really unsafe to drink in most places? Wasn't there a scandal over people cheating the tests to pass it off that it was safe to drink?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/lead-drinking-water-level-nrdc-report-flint-crisis

And you're sat there, Go on, it's safe! It's only a little percentage of something that can kill! rolleyes.gif

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/02/lead-water-testing-cheats-chicago-boston-philadelphia
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We have waste management, we have a lot of recycling points too where we can dispose of harmful chemicals such as antifreeze and oil etc that are found in cars and motorcycles. I fear for the future of our planet when challenged to understand what you're doing is harmful and causes issues with the treatment of the very essential things that keeps us as humans alive you simply can't see past your own nose because Jim down the plant said it's "Okay" without giving you numbers to go off.

One person doing something might be fine, what do I know? But then once more and more people start doing it... well that's a whole different story really isn't it.

Isn't the water in America really unsafe to drink in most places? Wasn't there a scandal over people cheating the tests to pass it off that it was safe to drink?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/lead-drinking-water-level-nrdc-report-flint-crisis

And you're sat there, Go on, it's safe! It's only a little percentage of something that can kill! rolleyes.gif

That's why there are recycling centers for larger amounts. Regulations state that small amounts can be processed by the wastewater treatment plant with approval. Larger amounts get recycled.

This isn't jimbob down at the crap plant. It's the US and state government.
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That's why there are recycling centers for larger amounts. Regulations state that small amounts can be processed by the wastewater treatment plant with approval. Larger amounts get recycled.

This isn't jimbob down at the crap plant. It's the US and state government.

Cos they don't lie or mess anything up at all... lol keep on keeping on, don't breed though and if you already have, tell em to thank you for the poison. thumb.gif
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Cos they don't lie or mess anything up at all... lol keep on keeping on, don't breed though and if you already have, tell em to thank you for the poison. thumb.gif

And your government is any better? rolleyes.gif
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And your government is any better? rolleyes.gif

Its against TOS to talk about politics but I don't trust anyone who tells me to put toxins in the toilet because it'll be okay nor do I trust anyone wearing a suit.
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One has to keep in mind that it's toxic to humans, and pretty much lethal to pets even in small exposure rates. On top of that, you have to dispose of it properly, and it isn't exactly biodegradable.

Either way, I wouldn't want to take those kinds of risks myself, and I wouldn't trust coolant that isn't designed for subzero uses in any environment that regularly sits below 0C simply because one cannot guarantee that there will always be enough flow to prevent the formation of ice crystals, and eventually blocks of ice. Doubly so if we're talking a proper winter like -20C and sticking either just the radiator or most of the rig (minus hard drives) outside/into a cold box.

Even benchers let things settle for a minute or two in between runs to allow the card to be as cold as possible, so while flow could prevent the formation of ice it just takes that one slight dead spot for ice to start forming and then it can rapidly cascade from there with damaging results.
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Sure, a "proper" winter, you live in Edmonton, lol!biggrin.gif
Disclaimer: I was born in Calgary, but got the hell out of there after a few years, lol!
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If there are no local recyclers, you dump it down the toilet. Wastewater treatment plants are made to handle small amounts of it without issues.


DO NOT dump it down the drain if you have a septic system.


I just looked up the MSDS report for my XSPC ECX concentrate. Main ingredient 10-100%? Propylene glycol....
EK coolant, Propylene glycol....

Ive beening running propylene glycol for about 4 years without issue... system runs about 5-8C delta. Its non toxic, generally regarded as safe.. vape guys inhale it. lol.

Good point, lol!biggrin.gif
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Sure, a "proper" winter, you live in Edmonton, lol!biggrin.gif
Disclaimer: I was born in Calgary, but got the hell out of there after a few years, lol!
Good point, lol!biggrin.gif

Vape guys might inhale it, because it doesn't such oxygen out of the water we need in our lungs*. How ever, chemicals react differently for us than they do for other things.
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Propylene glycol is known to exert high levels of biochemical oxygen demand (BOD) during degradation in surface waters. This process can adversely affect aquatic life by consuming oxygen needed by aquatic organisms for survival.

*Sarcasm....
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This is getting funny..... I work for a wastewater treatment facility. Nowhere should anything like this be dumped down the toilet, but just like tampons and baby wipes..... It happens anyways. It's a tired argument, and people will do what they please, especially when nobody is watching. I've been working in this industry for 7 years, and have seen my fair share of stuff "flushed down the toilet".
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