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After only a few months being used with a Predator 360 AIO via qdc, my 1080 water block developed some nickel plating issue in an area where its not in contact of the coolant. I also want to point out that I've never disassembled the block.

Anyways I have since moved on with the Predator 360 AIO (had to rma that also) to a EK custom loop and transplanted the blemished 1080 block into my new loop. That's when I noticed it while disassembly/cleaning.

Now my question is, does this warrant an rma since its since still under warranty?





Edit: inb4 holy moly look at them air bubbles!!! I'm currently using a temp pump/res from a S360 kit lol until my D5 pump/res arrives. I have two PE 360 + gpu block + x99 monoblock so its very inadequate and will probably kill itself shortly.


*not final build*
Edited by allinlvl1 - 9/19/17 at 12:39pm
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The EKWB support reps arrogant approach to amazingly high quality control standards is laughable.

Good luck with the RMA.
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They will still RMA the block with minimal issues.
   
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you both missed the point.

...but we haven't. i'll explain below.
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again. in an enthusiast world. 0.5c makes a difference. and yes distilled has better thermals then any mix out there.

Except it doesn't.
If you want to do benching to the extreme you don't use watercooling. WC is the mid-ground in terms of overclocking. All it does is take the heat outside of the immediate vicinity of the heat generating hardware and can scale a bit better with larger heat loads (from multiple sources). For example multi-GPU / CPU systems. Therefore, if you bench you use evaporator solutions, chillers, sub-zero or LN2 (pots rather than closed-loop solutions).

After that you just keep on ranting about stuff you probably never experienced first-hand, so I'll snip to the next thing you talk about...
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neither of you are allowing there to be validity to using distilled. many have, for years, without issues.

I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth.
What I said was "I can't recommend to use distilled when there are premade coolants out there which are safer to use". Now, experts can use whatever they want, for example Galinstan smile.gif but they are experts, not genpop.
I've seen this kind of behavior plenty of times. People become good at what they do, they reach a certain level of expertise and start suffering from what I call "the Saruman Syndrome". They stand there in the high tower, no longer able to relate to people who are not experts and therefore providing potentially disastrous solutions to regular people. Don't do it. Just don't. That expert solution works for you because you know how to handle it and what to do when it starts misbehaving - however not everyone can. Therefore I can't recommend a potentially dangerous solution to people who can't handle it just yet.

After over 15 years of riding motorcycles I can handle a Hayabusa - but the person who just obtained their driver's license can't. It would likely just get them killed. So I don't recommend it - and then witness someone like you starting their rant because I hurt their feelings...
Adapting to someone's knowledge level is a skill.
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what i am saying is let people make up their own minds, stop pushing your baggage on them. let them choose and deal with their own consequences.

...and then what, witness them come here and tell us we're horrible advisers because we didn't even care about their level when they asked, and now their loop is ruined because they trusted us with a solution adjusted to their knowledge level, which we haven't provided? Thanks but no, I am not going to do that.
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as to my example. because it is a perfectly reasonable example. why buy an i7 when you will get max performance from an Athlon ? there are many reasons. but no none of yours are relevant someone who knows nothing made a poor decision wasting my money ( i buy the product my company makes )

Again, I have no idea what the reasons are in your company, but as I said there could be plenty of reasons. I've seen cases where a company needs between 1K and 30K machines which should all be based on the same core (mobo/CPU/case/PSU) with several storage and RAM options - and vendors can only provide Intel-based machines in such quantities - not to mention they are getting a pretty sweet LTS and price deal with the bundle. You go try obtaining a 5K machines quote with identical AMD CPUs and then come back with a better deal than Intel-based from any vendor.

The issue here is you're thinking small, you look around your office and say "I could definitely get 50 Athlon-based machines which would suffice and be cheaper" - which is definitely correct, but your CFO might look at the company strategy for the next 5 years in hardware and say "I will need 50K units which my company can easily manage remotely, support costs should be 0.5% target and deployment costs should be 0.1% target, with a contract ensuring me free hardware upgrades and replacement throughout the contract period with a 2-year pace". So your solution might look cheaper right now, looking around you, but that guy up top has access to factors and targets you can't even begin to comprehend.

Disclaimer: I work for an IT company with almost 200K employees and almost twice as many employee-owned machines.
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The EKWB support reps arrogant approach to amazingly high quality control standards is laughable.

Good luck with the RMA.
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They will still RMA the block with minimal issues.

Good news they approved my rma and I'll be shipped a new replacement! This is the reason why I stick with EKWB parts knowing I'll be taking care of if issues arise without delay. thumb.gif
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How important is the direction of flow in the triple parallel GPU bridge? Mine connects two cards, with a blanking plate in the middle. The inlet/outlet configuration shown in the instructions (left top inlet, bottom right or lateral as outlet) is exactly the opposite of how I would like ti set up my loop. I have used dual parallel blocks in the past with the flow the way I want it this time (inlet from the lateral port, outlet through the top left port) with no problems (that I'm aware of), but I don't remember flow direction being mentioned in the instructions back then.
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I don't know how much input you have for the design folks at ek but please tell them to start doing something different. These blocks look like the x99 blocks out for my old deluxe. Literally identical except a change in the bottom with a plate now. The black just adds the rgb. So boring bro. The entire EK line up has 2 looks that just get reiterated over and over. Stop being the Apple of the water cooling industry. rolleyes.gif Long time customer here just saying.
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How important is the direction of flow in the triple parallel GPU bridge? Mine connects two cards, with a blanking plate in the middle. The inlet/outlet configuration shown in the instructions (left top inlet, bottom right or lateral as outlet) is exactly the opposite of how I would like ti set up my loop. I have used dual parallel blocks in the past with the flow the way I want it this time (inlet from the lateral port, outlet through the top left port) with no problems (that I'm aware of), but I don't remember flow direction being mentioned in the instructions back then.

Shouldn't matter, but idk if their blocks are directional
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Was too lazy to tear down/drain the loop from the case one by one but I miraculously did it without any help. Dont be an idiot like me! The Lian Li PC-011 looks nice but theres just some annoying stuff that I can't live with (paper thin aluminum, advertised to be able to mount 5 80mm fans but the mount holes are different and few others) so it's going back for false advertising and will likely be my last case from them.

Suprisngly there's not too many decent tempered glass cases that can house dual 360 but I narrowed it down to either Thermaltake view 71, be quiet dark base pro, Cougar Panzer, inwin or maybe the new cases from Cooler Master.
Edited by allinlvl1 - 9/20/17 at 8:23pm
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