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320kb/s MP3 and FLAC is all you'll want to listen to. Anything less will sound terrible.
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alrighty. How do i get that.
    
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Just get flacs. Unless you don't have room for them, in that case get a hard drive.
    
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post #14 of 41
The same way you'd get hold of any other music files, just stick to 320kb/s or above and FLAC.

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Just get flacs. Unless you don't have room for them, in that case get a hard drive.
Not everything is in FLAC, you know. Most of my music I struggle to find at 320.
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post #15 of 41
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alrighty. How do i get that.
you rip your CD's in to flac files using software like this http://download.cnet.com/FLAC-Ripper...-10664385.html or you can get them off the net. (i don't condone pirating so no flames)
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post #16 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretninja View Post
Put some effort into your arguments or stop posting.
mp3 vs. CD quality test
Gizmodo - The Great Mp3 Bitrate Test

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Originally Posted by Sam C. Lin.
..two testers (both) in blind tests of both tracks were able to tell that the CD was slightly better sounding than 192Kbps MP3. The differences were very suble, however. There was slightly more distortion of drum cymbals in the Mary J. Blige track, and the highs sounded slightly more emphasized - surprising, since the cutoff of the MP3 was 16KHz vs the CD's 20KHz. The Rachmaninov track sounded surprisingly similar - the piano sounded almost identical to the original, but the strings seemed a little subdued. When comparing CD vs 256Kbps and 320Kbps MP3, however, one listener actually preferred the MP3 - it sounded brighter, while the other found no difference. Neither listener could tell the difference between 256Kbps and 320Kbps MP3.
I might've exaggerated when I said 192kbps is enough, 256kbps is. Especially for a entry-level set like the HD 598 without a higher end DAC. Since space isn't an issue nowadays one should probably still save their stuff in 320kbps VBR (aka V0) in order to be on the safe side, and use FLAC files always when they're available. At any rate, the files you get from stores and Spotify Premium are easily of high enough quality.

I still compress my music to 192kbps on the go, I save a huge amount of space and lose nothing on sound quality since outside noises are bound to disturb more than a few missing bits (I'm using just a Sansa Clip+ and Sennheiser CX-400, so quite mid-fi)

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alrighty. How do i get that.
Use Foobar2000 to play your music, it shows you the file type, bit- and sample rates in the lower corner. If you're using Windows 7 you should see them in the explorers lower half too. You don't have to worry about the files themselves if you get them off a service that sells them, or Spotify (which is 160kbps .ogg but still rather good, Premium is 320kbps). If you pirate your files, you'll have to see for yourself what crap you just downloaded. Even if the reported bitrate was 320kbps or even FLAC, someone might have just re-encoded a crappy YouTube stream or an otherwise bad file to a higher bitrate. This won't recover the audio quality, so I strongly suggest against shady torrents and instead you should get the real stuff from downloading services like Amazon or Spotify.
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post #17 of 41
Anyway, AAC is much better quality than mp3. Also VBR -v0 mp3 is exactly the same as 320kbps CBR mp3. There is very little reason to use 320 kbps CBR mp3 these days. I get FLAC because of archival purposes and I can transcode it into whatever I want. Also the test is HIGHLY dependant on the dynamic range of the music. lossy introduces artifacts and distortion. Also shady 'false lossless' torrents are really the exception rather than the norm and can easily be detected via spectrograms or gees, just read the comments....
But hey, no talk of that here.

since ya using a Clip+, I'd rather encode to AAC. ~192kbps AAC is better than 320 kbps / VBR -v0 mp3. Easily proven via spectrograms.
post #18 of 41
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
since ya using a Clip+, I'd rather encode to AAC. ~192kbps AAC is better than 320 kbps / VBR -v0 mp3. Easily proven via spectrograms.
Thanks, I'll do some research on this.

While measurements matter I don't think highly of things that aren't audible for myself, so I'll test the AAC vs mp3 myself. Besides most of my stuff isn't in FLAC archives, so I shouldn't do a lossy->lossy conversion even if it was better.
This is just my opinion and you're better off sticking with highest quality files and FLAC in the first place, OP.

Also from what I've experienced, bad lossless torrents are rare, but bad lossy torrents are quite commonplace. That's why I buy my stuff.
    
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post #19 of 41
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Blind test? I doubt you could tell the difference from well encoded 192 and CD.
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Last week I read an article about how "fine-wine" connoisseurs when blind folded could not tell the difference between the top-shelf wine and the cheap stuff from the lower shelves. I am willing to wager dollars to your donuts that no one here could distinguish music files ripped in Flac from the same songs ripped in 256k MP3's or one ripped into another codec such has AAC or...

Trust your ears more than other's.
    
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