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Anyone who's seen combat, and also played Project Reality, how close is that to the real thing? Also, what FPSes would you say are close to real combat? Well, as close as a video game can get to actually getting shot at and scared for your life. I'm just genuinely curious here.
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Originally Posted by Raptor_Jesus View Post
Anyone who's seen combat, and also played Project Reality, how close is that to the real thing? Well, as close as a video game can get to actually getting shot at and scared for your life.
Project reality with updated graphics, larger maps, and more players and something to hurt you when you are shot / something else would be very very very similar to RL
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Originally Posted by Toransu View Post
True that. He even thinks the ghetto-rigged dual mags taped together really happen in real war.



You're welcome.
yes they use dual mags in a real war, my older brother is over in Afghanistan right now, but their dual mags are made specifically for that purpose and clip together, yeah i agree though that the ghetto tapped mags wouldnt last one reload
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If you really want realistic, go play America's Army 3......its not that fun....
There is a difference between realism, and team work orientation. The game isn't realistic in the slightest, it is just UNREALISTICALLY altered so that you have to work with team-mates, and can't do any lone wolf crap. Just because it is a team based shooter (that actually is tied together pretty nice), and it takes place in Real Life scenarios (or at least there is such thing as a United States and German struggle going on), doesn't mean that it is realistic.

No game is even slightly realistic yet. Even the REALISM shooters like ARMA. They are just as realistic as we can achieve now in a video game. A realistic game would have to be....

A game with at least photorealistic environments and visuals.

A game with realistic physics calculations ( wind bullet path alteration, for example)

A game that takes place in a real life scenario.

A game that items aren't to far-fetched.

A game with about no storyline whatsoever.

And that is pretty much it. If you put that all together, you would get a pretty decent game. Of course though the lack of a story would turn me off but it would still be fun. In fact the reason most of us don't find realistic games to be fun, is because for the longest amount of time we have been playing unrealistic games! It isn't anything wrong with the game, it is just that most of us don't want to accept the change because overall NOT changing is the path of least resistance. It is a lot easier to just say realistic shooters suck when you are so used to unrealistic shooters, than to actually accept the change, and the transition from unreal-ism to realism.

Personally I don't give a crap, as long as it is fun. I think this is what most people say, but it is just that what they perceive as "fun" varies. Some people just say that realism is fun, and others say that unrealism is fun!
    
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post #126 of 144
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Originally Posted by i_hax View Post
Working together towards a common goal (aka teamwork) has absolutely nothing to do with realism or game mechanics.
Have you even played Project Reality? What do you call it when you're playing a game in which it is absolutely critical that someone calls out from which direction you saw enemies, because, you know, in realism-oriented games there's no magic blood on your screen that tells you which direction you're getting shot from and most soldiers don't have tracer ammunition every 5 bullets (that means when someone shoots at you, you can't see shiny lights as it zips past you... or in you... unless he's shooting a LMG or larger gun).
Edited by thiru - 4/20/11 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Raptor_Jesus View Post
Anyone who's seen combat, and also played Project Reality, how close is that to the real thing? Also, what FPSes would you say are close to real combat? Well, as close as a video game can get to actually getting shot at and scared for your life. I'm just genuinely curious here.
If you'd asked me a week ago I could have asked them. A lot of people with combat experience play PR. Although Arma 2 with the ACE mod is even more realistic. The only reason I haven't played Arma 2 yet is that I heard that it's less fun either because the gameplay is less fun (realism-related I guess) or because there aren't many team-vs-team servers (apparently people mostly play co-op against bots...).
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I enjoy my "pub" game of random team cooperation but mostly just lone wolf frag fests. Mostly though I really enjoy more simulation titles that have arcade elements. PR for BF2 is a really good one. I found ArmA long and tiresome (too much simulation).

The biggest thing I think is the team-play. You get the most team play in simulation games and the least in Arcade Titles like MW2.
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General people misuse the term "realistic". People in general don't have problems with realism. As long as the game looks decent enough (it doesn't have to be Crysis graphics), the main thing that people complain about is the balance. Unbalanced games aren't fun to play and the results are daft which is why most use the term "realistic".

MW2 was unbalanced to the extreme. There were many elements to the gameplay that did this. The most common one that people go on about so much is Commando... i've actually had someone teleport off a high building and stab me... A fall that would normally kill the player too... Teleporting knife attacks are unbalanced hence not fun at all.

I could name a few other details, but its not worth the wall of a text.
post #130 of 144
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i live in the real world. a game like GTA IV makes it so i can go and express myself how i wish i could on a daily basis.

if its unrealistic, my mind just screams "impossible" over and over and i cannot get into the game.
hey somebody else too noticing a strange thing about this post......
this post was already posted by someone else in the first few pages of this thread...and btw im seeing this user...potitoos doing this quite often...he just takes somebody elses post and posts it randomly in that same thread.....very strange...either he is trolling or just simple spamming.....or has no productive input to give.......

EDIT:(flame suit on)....i really like cod due to its unrealistic gunplay...and i love bfbc2 for entirely different reasons...but neither of these games r anywhere near realistic levels........

and btw the whole purpose of playing games for me is to escape reality...so playing realistic games just defeats that purpose....:S

and my father is in indian air force so i might not get much info from him coz he has never actually fought anyone face to face but i know about the condition of soldiers who have been rescued by air force...and how they felt........
Edited by ghost_z - 4/20/11 at 10:23am
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