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Both platforms are quite interesting. If you have very little money to spend on a build and you don't need to do anything computationally strenuous then the AMD platform would be perfect. Now if you have a little extra coin to splash around the i3 looks like a great deal. If you popped in a ATI 5xxx+ or a NV4xx+ card with that i3, you would have yourself a decent little lan rig.
Edited by AtomicFrost - 4/18/11 at 2:42am
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post #12 of 118
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But if you build a complete build (with similar HDD, CD roms, case etc), then it will cost only about ~ $120 more
The review just isn't a fair comparison in the least. A midrange system vs an entry level system. I don't think anyone would expect me to compare a 430$ motherboard and CPU to the i3 2100 and zotac mb in a review.
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"Only" ending up meaning costing 2x as much. Man, you're hilarious. You don't need high CPU performance for consuming media. Zacate also has low power consumption idle and playing 1080p video. Your point?

QuickSync is the only valid argument I see here, but paying 2x more to get JUST that seems a bit... high. But keep blindingly recommending Intel; you're good at it.
Intel performs better at everything. Screw the price, its negligible for me, I would rather take something that has integrated graphics that's bout 5x stronger and uses about the same power

Not to mention, Intel is giving me a heavier employee discount on their products than AMD ever did when I was working with them.
 
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In Australia a decent ITX board with the 2100T costs $100 more than the E-350 on a decent board, worth it IMO.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentiu...um%20G840.html

It's about 50 dollars cheaper, and shouldnt be that far off from the i3-2100.

This should be what they're comparing it with.
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http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentiu...um%20G840.html

It's about 50 dollars cheaper, and shouldnt be that far off from the i3-2100.

This should be what they're comparing it with.
Power usage was higher with this one though. By quite a bit. Depending on the situation, the i3-2100T might be better off
 
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Power usage was higher with this one though. By quite a bit. Depending on the situation, the i3-2100T might be better off
Oh. Right, the T series with low power consumption.
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Oh. Right, the T series with low power consumption.
I said lower. There's a difference. The 2100T has some of the lowest power envelopes of i3 series. Compared to the Fusion/Zacate platform... yeah its not low.

But I'll take the trade off: extra performance.

and to the price arguement: fine if ur looking for bottom line price, that's what AMD has always excelled at for the past few years. If you want something with a bit more oomph... I've made my point already.
 
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Well, for me performance is key for an HTPC. Which means Intel's SB lineup is entirely useless, for a very important reason that the review completely failed to mention. SB cannot display 23.976Hz (ie most Bluray content) properly, which results in tearing.

It doesn't matter how fast the CPU is, if the IGP can't display video properly it's a no-go. 3D means nothing to most people, especially as there are so few discs around and even fewer TVs, so the v1.3 support on Zacate isn't really a major issue. But the lack of proper Bluray playback period on the Intel platform means it's effectively useless.

Now for a low-mid desktop build it's exactly what I'd buy - but then you're competing price-wise with AMD's triple & quad core chips, which are faster again (and power consumption is much less of a concern for most users who don't leave their PCs on 24/7).
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Summa Summarum Every Watt Counts :

Intel Core i3-2100T + Zotac H67-ITX WiFi = 220 EUR
(AMD E-350) MSI E350IS-E45 = 100 EUR

Power Consumption
AMD Idle 7.3 W
Intel Idle 9.7 W

AMD CPU+GPU burn 22.1 W
intel CPU+GPU burn 38.9 W
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Is the i3-2100T really any better than the i3-350M though? Only ~200MHz difference between the two, and the same TDP. Doesn't seem like THAT much of a breakthrough. I have a 350M in my HTPC, and it's overkill for pretty much everything.

And if people really cared about absolute performance with HTPC-oriented systems, people wouldn't be using intel Atoms--so I would still think people might lean toward a brazos system given the price, and the ability to still do most things just fine. The capability of a CPU to have game-playing performance doesn't mean it's useful for anything beyond media playing. If it goes in a system without a discrete (or competent integrated) graphics card, it really doesn't matter.

Hats off to intel for taking their mobile cpu's performance and TDP (i3-350M) and porting it over to the second-generation i3 desktop, but to be honest, it's not that big of an achievement, and I'd be shocked if people looking to build an HTPC would shell out up to $200 more for an i3-2100T system.
    
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