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Is the i3-2100T really any better than the i3-350M though? Only ~200MHz difference between the two, and the same TDP. Doesn't seem like THAT much of a breakthrough. I have a 350M in my HTPC, and it's overkill for pretty much everything.

And if people really cared about absolute performance with HTPC-oriented systems, people wouldn't be using intel Atoms--so I would still think people might lean toward a brazos system given the price, and the ability to still do most things just fine. The capability of a CPU to have game-playing performance doesn't mean it's useful for anything beyond media playing. If it goes in a system without a discrete (or competent integrated) graphics card, it really doesn't matter.

Hats off to intel for taking their mobile cpu's performance and TDP (i3-350M) and porting it over to the second-generation i3 desktop, but to be honest, it's not that big of an achievement, and I'd be shocked if people looking to build an HTPC would shell out up to $200 more for an i3-2100T system.
The biggest difference in the new architecture is based of 32nm (bit lower TDP) and its 5-15% faster on a clock-per-clock basis. The 3 digit nomenclature is first gen, 4 digit is second gen.. Biggest difference is the second gen has much better IGP, other than that, its all minor stuff
 
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My Zacate build does everything an HTPC needs to do and for less power consumption and less money.

Short story even shorter: I like my orange, you can keep your apple.
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The biggest difference in the new architecture is based of 32nm (bit lower TDP) and its 5-15% faster on a clock-per-clock basis. The 3 digit nomenclature is first gen, 4 digit is second gen.. Biggest difference is the second gen has much better IGP, other than that, its all minor stuff
True--but all of the mobile i3 first-gen CPU's were 32nm--at least, my laptop and my HTPC (both mobile i3 CPU's) are 32nm. The only real advantage is the on-die gpu with the second-gen i3. But to be honest, for HTPC's (seemed like the theme of the review was for HTPC-type systems), even low-end motherboards have more-than-competent integrated graphics. I would have liked to see them compare the i3-2100 to an i3-350M (also a 32nm, 35W TDP CPU) + motherboard with Intel HD graphics and do similar comparisons, and see how the "new generation" really has advantages over the previous--or rather, see how much better it is (I expect it's not really much different).
    
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I have to agree with the apples to oranges theme going on. If you have the money, the i3 2100T is a better buy because it'll perform better, but if you're going super-cheap and/or don't care about performance then Zacate will serve you better. For example, I have an old 800 MHz Pentium 3 I'm thinking about replacing with a smaller and more energy-efficient system. All it runs is a TeamSpeak 3 server and an OpenVPN server, even the Pentium 3 is overpowered for that. Since I don't need performance I'd go with Zacate since it's at least $100 cheaper. Why spend an extra $120 for the i3 when that extra CPU power won't get used anyway?
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel View Post
Do take into account the fact that the Zacate platform costs A LOT less, so this article doesn't give it much justice.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious
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Originally Posted by ThePath View Post
I disagree with you

There is only about ~$100-$120 price difference between E-350 + Mini ITX mobo vs i3 2100T + Mini ITX

But 2100T offers better gaming performance, 3-4 times CPU performance, lower power consumption at idle and when playing 1080p video. Not to mention Quick Sync technology which can transcode HD video way faster than anything.

For not huge price difference, you can get much much better processor
Zacate is for HTPC's,netbooks, and entry level desktops & notebooks,for average user tasks,not gaming. Who games on a HTPC anyway?
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I did read it. How about you stop presuming crap based on nothing?
Zacate will offer much more bang-for-buck for what this is typically gonna be used for: media consumption.

Xbit may want to praise Intel all they want, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Sandy Bridge is too expensive for an HTPC.
^This.
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Well that's quite unfair
Netbookish platform vs mainstream?
No
Ikr?

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Originally Posted by TitaniumClocker View Post
Intel performs better at everything. Screw the price, its negligible for me, I would rather take something that has integrated graphics that's bout 5x stronger and uses about the same power

Not to mention, Intel is giving me a heavier employee discount on their products than AMD ever did when I was working with them.
Biased much?
Oh wait.....you work for Intel. Obviously they gives you a much larger discount,they can afford to lose more.
These two platforms don't even compare in the 1st place.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/18/11 at 2:10pm
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post #48 of 118
I did a Gigabyte e-350 build that was below $300. You can forget about doing anything but low quality games (emulators, worms, Half Life 1 etc) on these. The difference is negligible. Throwing in a 4670 on my e-350 doubled the power consumption in both idle and load, so at that point the whole "low power system" becomes irrelevant.

The point is the e-350 is the best low power htpc or standard internet user setup you can do right now since it works well and is super cost effective. If you want to go ahead and pay more for the overhead the i3 offers... go ahead. Most people in this market will not utilize the extra processing power and it would be a waste.
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Call me biased but I'd rather pay the extra ~$100 for better performance and lower power consumption.
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Call me biased but I'd rather pay the extra ~$100 for better performance and lower power consumption.
But the i5 2500K is only another $100, and offers much better performance with equal or better performance per watt.

And the i7 2600K is only another $100 again, and it offers even more performance, with the same great performance per watt.

Where does it end? You had more performance than you needed for an HTPC with Zacate - why pay for more that you won't use?
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