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So no ones going to complain about it's 4 thread vs 2 thread. ?
50% advantage and 2.4ghz vs 1.6ghz another 50%.
last it's 40nm vs 32nm.
this is AMD's first bulk silicon on new low power architecture, over time it will get better just like all AMD silicon usually do.
    
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the i3-2100 deal is not the same as the 2100t. This is specifically about low power draw systems. The board/cpu cost of the i3 is almost 50% more than the zacate. How is this a good comparison?

Edit: Current lowest prices I could find on google shopping, not including tax or shipping, rounded down:

i3-2100t : $134
Zotac H67-ITX Wifi: $151

Total: $285

Amazon for the E350, in most states this is taxed and shipped:

Gigbyte GA-E350N-USB3

Total: $143

How is the argument continuing. Intel wins performance per watt. AMD has a better price point. End of story. The only other bonus is that the H67 had built in wifi and more pci-e lanes.
AMD wins period, because of the price point, once again. Just like anything else, Intel is over priced and it costs more to build a machine. The E350 will be just fine for 99.8% of all users out there that only care about what they paid for it and if it works well. Once again the Intel fanboy monster rears it's ugly head thrashing the thread to bits.....
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No, it doesn't cost 2x as much, unless if you only compare CPU with mobo

But if you build a complete build (with similar HDD, CD roms, case etc), then it will cost only about ~ $120 more

For example, if you buy a complete build that has E-350 and it cost you $400, then 2100T is going to cost only about ~ $520 (if all other parts are similar)

Remember that many people don't buy just mobo and a CPU
that $120 is a lot to me when I just want a basic htpc.
    
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But I'd rather be able to play some decent games. Also resale value down the road would be better.
You DO know that HTPC stands for Home Theater Personal Computer right?

An HTPC is built for low power during usage and has the vast storage capabilities that a computer allows. The very name implies that the machine shouldn't be used to play games in the slightest.

This is why you build a gaming computer in it's place.
     
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"Only" ending up meaning costing 2x as much. Man, you're hilarious. You don't need high CPU performance for consuming media. Zacate also has low power consumption idle and playing 1080p video. Your point?

QuickSync is the only valid argument I see here, but paying 2x more to get JUST that seems a bit... high. But keep blindingly recommending Intel; you're good at it.
Man, you're hilarious. The point here is bang for the buck, not as cheap as it gets. For twice the money you get four times the performance, isn't this bang for the buck?? I guess you don't understand what's the meaning of bang for the buck.
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If it's every watt counts, I'd still buy the AMD platform, because it's cheaper. I know it would be cheaper to have more power on tap with the i3, but at that point, I'm wasting money. HTPC doesn't stand for "overkill", I'll choose the system that gets the job done, hence why I never upgraded my sig, it does what I want it to
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You DO know that HTPC stands for Home Theater Personal Computer right?

An HTPC is built for low power during usage and has the vast storage capabilities that a computer allows. The very name implies that the machine shouldn't be used to play games in the slightest.

This is why you build a gaming computer in it's place.
Gaming is part of Home Theater, and I don't see how you can try to exclude it from the arguement other then the fact the AMD system can't do it very well.

An HTPC doesn't have to be low power either. As long as the consumption is low on Idle, it shouldn't matter all that much, though it depends on the person.

An HTPC is a computer meant to be incorporated into the rest of your home theater setup. If you build a gaming computer and never move it from your main TV, in an environment you watch TV and movies, you have yourself an HTPC.

The i3 system is something I would have in my living room. The AMD system is something I would have in my bedroom.
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Man, you're hilarious. The point here is bang for the buck, not as cheap as it gets. For twice the money you get four times the performance, isn't this bang for the buck?? I guess you don't understand what's the meaning of bang for the buck.
I likes to watch my videos @ 120fps and not 30fps.

Oh wait, that's not how it works.
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel View Post
Xbit may want to praise Intel all they want, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Sandy Bridge is too expensive for an HTPC.
Is this too expensive?


If you have videos where dxva doesn't work good luckwith the zacate handling it. Go read at AVS plenty of people having issues. Just bearly is not good enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post
You DO know that HTPC stands for Home Theater Personal Computer right?

An HTPC is built for low power during usage and has the vast storage capabilities that a computer allows. The very name implies that the machine shouldn't be used to play games in the slightest.

This is why you build a gaming computer in it's place.
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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
AMD wins period, because of the price point, once again. Just like anything else, Intel is over priced and it costs more to build a machine. The E350 will be just fine for 99.8% of all users out there that only care about what they paid for it and if it works well. Once again the Intel fanboy monster rears it's ugly head thrashing the thread to bits.....
^this.
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Gaming is part of Home Theater, and I don't see how you can try to exclude it from the arguement other then the fact the AMD system can't do it very well.

An HTPC doesn't have to be low power either. As long as the consumption is low on Idle, it shouldn't matter all that much, though it depends on the person.

An HTPC is a computer meant to be incorporated into the rest of your home theater setup. If you build a gaming computer and never move it from your main TV, in an environment you watch TV and movies, you have yourself an HTPC.

The i3 system is something I would have in my living room. The AMD system is something I would have in my bedroom.
Gaming=Home theater? LOLWUT?
If you have a HTPC you most likely also have a Xbox 360 and or a PS3.
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So no ones going to complain about it's 4 thread vs 2 thread. ?
50% advantage and 2.4ghz vs 1.6ghz another 50%.
last it's 40nm vs 32nm.
this is AMD's first bulk silicon on new low power architecture, over time it will get better just like all AMD silicon usually do.
Lulz,you can't even compare the two chips.
AMD's next low power APU is supposed to have 32nm. Bulldozer technology.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/18/11 at 9:34pm
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