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Just saying

I game on my HTPC... It also has a GTX 460 in it. its stays silent enough to be happy with

I load up mainly racing games that I play with wireless controler (ps3 on bluetooth)

soooo yeah HTPC can be good for games too.
 
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Just saying

I game on my HTPC... It also has a GTX 460 in it. its stays silent enough to be happy with

I load up mainly racing games that I play with wireless controler (ps3 on bluetooth)

soooo yeah HTPC can be good for games too.
Or, rather, a gaming PC can handle home theater tasks too. (Albeit with higher costs than an HTPC.)
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Or, rather, a gaming PC can handle home theater tasks too. (Albeit with higher costs than an HTPC.)
I also game on my htpc, and yes its an htpc built around an i3 540, just pulled out the 5450 and popped in a 560.
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I also game on my htpc, and yes its an htpc built around an i3 540, just pulled out the 5450 and popped in a 560.
Again that's too much of a hassle. That's why you need a dedicated HTPC and a dedicated Gaming computer. personally that's why I bought a lappy. It does the gaming portion while my Desktop can be used as an HTPC. Yes my desktop is a gaming machine, but since my dad added a Bluray burner to it, it's slowly becoming the HTPC.

You don't want to keep swapping out components like that anyway. It's too risky if something expensive goes. Like that 560 for example. Can you readily replace that at any point in time if it dies tomorrow?
     
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AMD wins period, because of the price point, once again. Just like anything else, Intel is over priced and it costs more to build a machine. The E350 will be just fine for 99.8% of all users out there that only care about what they paid for it and if it works well. Once again the Intel fanboy monster rears it's ugly head thrashing the thread to bits.....
I don't see how I was being a fan of intel. I purchased an e350. It's hard to argue that the e350 has better performance per watt at similar power draw, not taking price into account. That is another issue.

Care to explain your comment here?


If it helps you reconsider, refer to my previous post in this thread:

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The point is the e-350 is the best low power htpc or standard internet user setup you can do right now since it works well and is super cost effective. If you want to go ahead and pay more for the overhead the i3 offers... go ahead. Most people in this market will not utilize the extra processing power and it would be a waste.
Edit:

I feel like I need to vent a little bit here. I install intel processors all day. Hundreds a year, exclusively intel. Myself and other colleagues all share the same opinion: that we want AMD to come back and smash intel in the balls with a silver hammer. We reminisce about the glory of the barton days during work. That's my opinion on the state of the industry. How dare you call me an intel fanboy.
Edited by mobius9 - 4/18/11 at 11:58pm
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lolwut. Ever heard of TDP? Thermal Design Power.
If it's plugged into the outlet...
post #77 of 118
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Again that's too much of a hassle. That's why you need a dedicated HTPC and a dedicated Gaming computer. personally that's why I bought a lappy. It does the gaming portion while my Desktop can be used as an HTPC. Yes my desktop is a gaming machine, but since my dad added a Bluray burner to it, it's slowly becoming the HTPC.

You don't want to keep swapping out components like that anyway. It's too risky if something expensive goes. Like that 560 for example. Can you readily replace that at any point in time if it dies tomorrow?
Hassle? I have a gaming pc, its my sig rig. But I also like to play games on my plasma sometimes.

So your saying my way is no good, but yours is because you watch movies from a gaming pc??? lol
Mine is a dedicated htpc under my tv, with 3 tuners, a remote in an htpc case. Just happens to have a 560 in it. And I always build htpc's with integrated graphics. So if that 560 does die no problem, I'll just use the clarkdale graphics. Or the 5450 thats sitting on my desk, or one of my 460's from my sig rig. I know what I'm doing here.
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There are different types of HTPC. There is the base HTPC and then there are "gaming rigs hooked to a TV" HTPC.


For a base HTPC, the AMD build is more than enough. Obviously, this is a different market than gaming rigs being twice as much. A base HTPC can be built for around $300 for hardware. If an i3 was to be considered, the price increase would be 30%! Base HTPC are more sensitive to price.


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If it's plugged into the outlet...
Still have to deal with noise and/or space.
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/19/11 at 7:18am
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I don't know, if the AMD APU can handle full HD without any stutter (which I assure you it can), then I don't really see how one can justify spending $120 more for the Intel platform. Sure, the numbers will tell you that the i3 is better, and yeah it is, but you don't always need the best. Seriously, an HTPC is meant to play media content, period, so if I can do the same thing as you, but I payed $120 less, then I've spent my money more wisely.

If you're building a multi-purpose machine, then Zacate probably isn't right for you. Also, if you absolutely need HD 3D support, then you probably have a heep of cash anyway and don't need to worry about pinching pennies.

In any case, the image quality on the Radeon (or any Nvidia card) is much better than the blandness that plagues Intel's IGP's.

Obviously I have as much disdain for Intel as Intel has for AMD/ATI, Nvidia, and VIA, but Quick Sync has impressed me since it's release. That being said, I would never use my HTPC for video encoding anyway and thus it's not really relevant to my needs.

Finally, you can argue that $120 price difference isn't that much, but for that I could buy an SSD or a ton more RAM, so the Zacate still wins out.

I leave with a reiteration, the Zacate can play 1080P without any stutters, what more do you want your typical HTPC to do?
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The SSD is a good point - for the same total expenditure, you can have an i3 system with a cheapy mechanical drive, or a Zacate system with an SSD. And (as I do all my recording to my server), I know which I would prefer to have under my TV.
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