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I have received a lot of help from many people here. I rep any helpful info.
here comes yet another question for you guys.

as you can see in my sig rig, I am building my first PC.

I REALLY want to experiment with different hardware and such. since i havent put more than 3 computers together, i want to start out by messing around with air cooling before i go to liquid/water.

questions:
-Can I replace a video card heatsink with one that would be better than the stock?
- what type of cpu heatsink should i go with?
- how should i apply thermal compund? (spread around or single dab).
- should my side fan blow in or out? (i have 1 120mm front fan and the same in the back)

take me to school
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post #2 of 16
- You can replace a video card's cooler, just make sure whatever you choose is compatible with it.
- Define CPU heatsink, there's many different coolers out there, in all ranges, but find what works to your needs in budget, size, compatibility to not obstruct ram or anything else (fitting in a case), socket compatibility, fan noise/cfm/static pressure, etc.
- If you get a heatpipe direct touch based CPU cooler, it's probably best to do a multi line method and to apply a bit more than a standard pea sized dab. It's arguable how much should be applied or what method, but usually a pea sized or about a grain of rice sized amount of paste is enough on the CPU, once u put the cooler on top of it, it squishes it down.
- Side fan as intake is usually suggested, it brings cooler air to the mobo, cpu, and gfx card.
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post #3 of 16
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what is the best way to use air cooling to cool my cpu for overclocking for under 100 bux?
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post #4 of 16
If you mean a CPU cooler that costs under a c-note. Then go for Thermalright's Silver Arrow or Noctua's NH-D14, they're quiet both and the best possible air coolers in the market under $100 (possible tax and shipping included) in cooling performance too. They are big and imposing, but should be able to fit your system. If you want to see what they look like, go check the link at my sig.

I got my Silver Arrow off this e-tailer:
http://www.directron.com/silverarrow.html

They also sell the D14, shipping for both items cost less than $7 for me.
http://www.directron.com/nhd14.html
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post #5 of 16
1.Yes
2. There are alot of good tower heatsinks, Noctua NH-D14 an Thermalright Silver Arrow are regarded as the best as of now.
3.You shouldn't spread it, just apply and fix the Heatsink.
4.Depends on your airflow setup, used for intake most of the time.
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post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Darqside View Post
I have received a lot of help from many people here. I rep any helpful info.
here comes yet another question for you guys.

as you can see in my sig rig, I am building my first PC.

I REALLY want to experiment with different hardware and such. since i havent put more than 3 computers together, i want to start out by messing around with air cooling before i go to liquid/water.

questions:
-Can I replace a video card heatsink with one that would be better than the stock?
- what type of cpu heatsink should i go with?
- how should i apply thermal compund? (spread around or single dab).
- should my side fan blow in or out? (i have 1 120mm front fan and the same in the back)

take me to school
Well the best way to apply thermal compound is a pea size in the center of the CPU/GPU (Just a estimate) and then when you apply the thermal compound the pressure spreads it evenly.

The side fan should normally intake, unless you reverse its normally bottom, front, side intake and rear/back, top exhaust.
post #7 of 16
For applying thermal paste, it's the kinda thing you have to have a few goes at before you get it right (for me it was at least)

For CPU cooling I'd recommend you get a paste that has no curing time, at least for your first go. That way it's easier to see if you've got it right and you don't need to wait for it to cure to see how well you've applied the paste
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post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
what would be a good heatsink to go with a (lets say for now) nVidia 460 gtx?
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post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darqside View Post
what would be a good heatsink to go with a (lets say for now) nVidia 460 gtx?
GTX 460 aftermarket (air) cooler (non-reference) list

Hope that helps.
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post #10 of 16
I would suggest for air cooling, the Thermailright silver arrow. It is a bit bulky but gets the job done. Has been shown to out preforme the closed loop water systems like the h50/70. Great for overclocking, the thing is making sure you have the clearance in your case.

http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...rrow-club.html

Good info there plus lots of owners coming together to get the club going. Any help youd need you can get there. I usually troll the forums even while at work.
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