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@ the ssd haters XD (not rly) but look at mechanical harddrives.... like 5 years ago a 20gb one was massive.... now we got 3tb drives and the cost is cheapper. SSDs got maybe 2 years before they replace mechanical completely there not een that expensive compared to realease date
post #72 of 127
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Yes, Duckie, SSDs will have to drop to HDD value before it will be embraced by the typical consumer. You can argue otherwise until you're blue in the face (like now) but that just isn't the case.

Oh, and "highest price" means nothing. I can find you 500 dollar 60gb SSDs on Amazon (probably newegg as well) right this second. Actual retail price is what we're (what I'm) looking at here.

Duckie: ....and is that OS or application data? No.

Of course not, Duckie. Are they going to sit there for 4 hours while I explain to them how to use one disc for storage and another for their OS? Do you think they even know what an OS is??

Duckie: o you think the mainsteam use is interested how computers work? No.
Do you think the mainsteam use is interested how computers perform? Yes.

No. They care about PRICE. People that buy 500-600 dollar Dells aren't buying performance, they're buying "an email machine." And "it can so game! ..It's got solitaire."

If it can sol, if it can e-mail, if it can youtube or facebook, if it can read pdfs, AND it's got a ton of storage for all their useless data, THAT's what sells a mainstream computer.
Dude. What is this 1995? Most people now know what an OS is and what the basic parts of a computer do. Just because your parents don't know anything about computers or people from that time period doesn't matter. In 2-3 years (or 5 years) when SSD's are more mainstream MOST people will know how to put data on a seperate drive. It is not complicated and what duckie is saying is instead of the laptop or PC being a higher price because of more ram or faster CPU it will have an SSD instead. If you think people these days don't at least know that they are buying a faster processer or more ram than you are kidding yourself. Consumers DO care about performance even if it will cost a little extra. Most people might buy an i5 but there are still those that do go for the i7 or 8gb ram and the same will be for the SSD option.
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The king is stepping down
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For the love all that is good, NO! how the hell could they be losing anyway, they're prices are higher then seagate/WD and they still sell like crazy, ***?
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On the bright side, Samsung hard drives might get a price drop like the Hitachi so there IS a silver lining (somewhat) to this. Stock up on F4s while you can!
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post #76 of 127
There is no rush to buy up Samsung HDDs.

Even if the acquisition occurred today.... it will take months before regulatory and legal proceedings would be sorted out. Samsung would continue to do business as is for at least another year. At that point, there would be a gradual phase out of drives.
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Just got a Samsung.. its disappointing they aren't making money... then again they are the cheapest 1tb for the preformance...maybe they should have priced a little higher? Also SSD's are nice i do enjoy having it as a main program and windows 7 boot drive. It just makes it feel more smooth and flow better overall.
Also, something about HDD's they have also got quite a bit faster as well. I have a WD1600JB that i found the other day ran Crystaldiskmark on it random read and writes of 63Mb/s. Much much slower then my Samsung or WD Black which get 120+.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHAT THE HELL!?!?

Their Samsung Spinpoint F3 and F4 were selling so well. Why are they doing this? Overnight, they turned into one of the best (if not the best) Hard Drive manufacturers and now, suddenly, they're leaving.

Who is the moron in management?
Maybe they are going to shift from mechanical to solid state. I can see Samsung doing very very well in the solid state portion.
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Having been designing and building low to high end servers for years, I am on the fence on this news item. From my point of view, all drive manufacturers have similar problems at one time or the other and just because Samsung had a good drive on the market, does not mean it was the best.

Less drive manufacturers will be a bad thing, but this in no way will affect the industry except for those companies that have spec'd out Samsung specific drives (military, certain government providers and medical equipment manufacturers).

IMO it would not matter who got the business, but I would prefer Seagate. They have a better track record (in my personal experience) in delivering long life drives with good support. I have just had too many bad experiences with WD and Fujitsu (not that it matters now), with the reliability and support of their drives.

RE: SSD's becoming mainstream;
It is happening now. My mainstream is in the server and appliance space. Last year at this time, my customers were researching ssd's and the only reason companies were purchasing them were for testing and evaluation. This year already 30% of my orders include SSD's. For appliances it is much higher (roughly 60%) and is usually the only drive. In most other servers they are the OS drive, with one or more HDD's for data. We are already seeing a trend towards SSD's in most systems by year end.

The consumer space is 2-3 years behind.

For what Ducky is talking about, grandma and grandpa will not need to learn to put data on one drive or the other, the system will be configured so they don't need to make that choice. The OS will already be setup so that the main drive (SSD) is for the OS only and most everything else will be installed on the HDD. This is how most of the servers that use SSD's now are setup. (at least the ones we sell anyway)
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Maybe they are going to shift from mechanical to solid state. I can see Samsung doing very very well in the solid state portion.
Samsung is a one of the main supplier of NAND. They have been making SSDs for years. Their newest one is decent but still can't compare to the top controllers.
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