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1. for the price, is this a worthwhile upgrade? I know its hard to say, but would it be better to wait for a GTX650 or something? This is for my 2nd rig, so I dont want to spend much. To be honest, I'm considering the 768MB 460 because its only around $100 and most of the time, fairly close in performance to the 1GB. Once I start thinking $180 for the 1GB, the GTX560 and 6950 get throw into my mind for a bit more, and I just dont want to spend that. I guess the GTX460 1GB still seems a bit pricey compared to whats out now. :/

2. My CPU is an E8400 dual core @ 4.25Ghz. Now this easily pushes my 260 c216 to 100% usage constantly, but its not quite enough to push my GTX560 in my main rig. I assume this would push a 460 pretty well?

My resolution is also 1920x1080p. Also, for now its XP, so DX9 only. I may upgrade at some point, but I have no plans yet.
    
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1. for the price, is this a worthwhile upgrade? I know its hard to say, but would it be better to wait for a GTX650 or something? This is for my 2nd rig, so I dont want to spend much. To be honest, I'm considering the 768MB 460 because its only around $100 and most of the time, fairly close in performance to the 1GB. Once I start thinking $180 for the 1GB, the GTX560 and 6950 get throw into my mind for a bit more, and I just dont want to spend that. I guess the GTX460 1GB still seems a bit pricey compared to whats out now. :/

2. My CPU is an E8400 dual core @ 4.25Ghz. Now this easily pushes my 260 c216 to 100% usage constantly, but its not quite enough to push my GTX560 in my main rig. I assume this would push a 460 pretty well?

My resolution is also 1920x1080p. Also, for now its XP, so DX9 only. I may upgrade at some point, but I have no plans yet.
I would luck into the AMD 6870 or the Nvidia geforce GTX550i. I do not reccomend the Geforce 4 series. Overheat, not great driver support, bad reference design, load, game stutter issues, power issues ect. I've had 4 GTX 470's in my time. Worst set of cards i have ever owned.
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Seeing that its for your secondary rig, that's a pretty good upgrade IMO.

E8400 @4.25GHz might bottleneck the GTX460 a bit but it isn't something to worry about.

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I would luck into the AMD 6870 or the Nvidia geforce GTX550i. I do not reccomend the Geforce 4 series. Overheat, not great driver support, bad reference design, load, game stutter issues, power issues ect. I've had 4 GTX 470's in my time. Worst set of cards i have ever owned.
You sir, are so wrong. GTX460 is better than the 550ti, not by too much though.
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I would luck into the AMD 6870 or the Nvidia geforce GTX550i. I do not reccomend the Geforce 4 series. Overheat, not great driver support, bad reference design, load, game stutter issues, power issues ect. I've had 4 GTX 470's in my time. Worst set of cards i have ever owned.
Nononono.

The 460 destroys the 550 ti in everything.

The 460 (GF104) isn't the same Fermi that's in the 470 and 480 (GF100). They're not hot at all (about the same as that 6870 you're recommending) have never had a driver problem, actually am using the reference design and it's WONDERFUL. Temps never climb over 70C even in SLI.

Stop deriding things you've not used/know little about.

OP: In games like BFBC2, your dual core will hold you back. In games like Mass effect, or Call of duty, your dual core will be fine. It's not your CPU bottlenecking so much as it's the particular game you may be playing. If you play games that need/recommend quads, you'll always come up short with your E8400. For everything else you'll do just fine.

As far as upgrade, the 460 is on par (slightly faster) with the GTX 285. You can see for yourself whether that's enough of an upgrade or not.
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You guys feel the same about the 768MB GTX 460? I'd feel a lot better about $100/120. I don't really NEED an upgrade, just got the itch.
    
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You guys feel the same about the 768MB GTX 460? I'd feel a lot better about $100/120. I don't really NEED an upgrade, just got the itch.
At 1080p? If you're ok with x2 or x4 anti aliasing, go for it. If you must have x8 then no, get the 1gb version. The 768 also performs a little bit in general behind the 1gb models.
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For every DX10 or DX9 game GTX 260 c216 is enough. Sometimes I play on my GTX 260 and never got FPS below 35 in any DX10 game at max details. Personally I wouldn't play with GTX 460. I don't know why, but I just don't like it o.O For me it's something like "half of a GTX 480" and I don't like GPUs like this o.O
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You guys feel the same about the 768MB GTX 460? I'd feel a lot better about $100/120. I don't really NEED an upgrade, just got the itch.
GTX260 should be sufficient IMO. If you really want to upgrade you can upgrade something else.

BTW 768MB doesn't perform as well as 1gb, at that resolution the 768 version should keep you happy. The 1GB would pull away at higher resolutions.
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Put the money toward a quad. Trust me. If you plan on playing modern games for a while, you need to start thinking about more cores. Many of the games out now really need a quad to shine, and many more coming out are going to REQUIRE it.

And honestly, the jump from a 260 to a 460 isn't really that large of a jump. It would be about the same as jumping from a 260 to a 285.
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For every DX10 or DX9 game GTX 260 c216 is enough. Sometimes I play on my GTX 260 and never got FPS below 35 in any DX10 game at max details. Personally I wouldn't play with GTX 460. I don't know why, but I just don't like it o.O For me it's something like "half of a GTX 480" and I don't like GPUs like this o.O
It's much more than "half a 480" but have it your way. 336 Cuda cores compared to 480, and they clock much higher. 2 of them blow a 480 out of the water. Some 30% faster.

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Put the money toward a quad. Trust me. If you plan on playing modern games for a while, you need to start thinking about more cores. Many of the games out now really need a quad to shine, and many more coming out are going to REQUIRE it.

And honestly, the jump from a 260 to a 460 isn't really that large of a jump. It would be about the same as jumping from a 260 to a 285.
This isn't bad advice, and is sort of what I was trying to say about "depends on what game you're playing." If a game needs a quad, no amount of overclocking a dual core will make up for the lack of cores.

Oh, and if 33-40% faster (before overclocking even) isn't "much of a jump" then geez people you're hard to impress.
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