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Console Oblivion and Vanilla PC Oblivion looked the same too, like dog****. It only looked decent with a slew of texture and light/env mods.
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Nope in every industry money is the driving force
money is the goal, innovation and competition are the way (or should be anyways) to get there.
 
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If the gameplay is good, it could look like Morrowwind for all I care...Bethesda makes awesome RPGs.
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There's that phrase again:

"Scale up"

Can you increase the size of a smaller image and retain the same quality? Nope. Try it in PS.
It's easier to take something larger and make it smaller without loss of quality.
Just say you made the same game for all three platforms.

So why the devs/pubs try to sell PC gamers this technical BS. Laughter all around.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 4/18/11 at 11:24am
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money is the goal, innovation and competition are the way (or should be anyways) to get there.
Not really

Look at Blizzard their games looks average at best, sometimes even below average yet they are probably the most successful developer. Its because their games can run on most computers. Whats the point of creating a a super pretty game when at most 10% of users can run it. Even if all 10% of those users bought it, it still wouldn't be worth it.
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Not really

Look at Blizzard their games looks average at best, sometimes even below average yet they are probably the most successful developer. Its because their games can run on most computers. Whats the point of creating a a super pretty game when at most 10% of users can run it. Even if all 10% of those users bought it, it still wouldn't be worth it.
earlier I was making a point about the graphical innovation yes, but that post that you quoted was just about plain innovation and competition all around. And we shouldn't take single example since they distort the image of the whole industry.'

E: but this is getting off topic...
 
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money is the goal, innovation and competition are the way (or should be anyways) to get there.
I am not sure which business or economics class you have taken, but that is completely wrong. Innovation and competition are factors that can makeup an economy, but the ultimate driving force for any business is the desire to make money. People don't go into business for any other purpose, but to make money, otherwise they will create non-profit organizations or charities. Innovation is actually completely unnecessary for an economy or business to work and competition definitely can be unnecessary as well. Those terms are actually only super prevalent in capitalistic businesses like ours. The presence of monopolies for instant, means a lack of competition and possible innovation. IMHO, innovation and competition defines "choice" or "options" in addition to what we currently have.
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I wouldn't care so long as the new engine they are using makes it a little easier to mod. I am sure it is the same for oblivion, but it didn't take long before I gave up on Fallout 3 and trying to get install orders correct, etc etc.
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I am not sure which business or economics class you have taken, but that is completely wrong. Innovation and competition are factors that can makeup an economy, but the ultimate driving force for any business is the desire to make money. People don't go into business for any other purpose, but to make money, otherwise they will create non-profit organizations or charities. Innovation is actually completely unnecessary for an economy or business to work and competition definitely can be unnecessary as well. Those terms are actually only super prevalent in capitalistic businesses like ours. The presence of monopolies for instant, means a lack of competition and possible innovation. IMHO, innovation and competition defines "choice" or "options" in addition to what we currently have.
To get anywhere with a business in this industry, you need innovation and the capability to compete.

Otherwise your business will fail from the start.
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I can't believe there are people that aren't bothered that new games are designed to look the same on a 7800gtx/pentium4/512 ram (GPU+system!) console as on a standard mid-high range gaming computer that has 10x the power.
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Oh wait, we get higher res textures.

It's sad to see that developers don't even take the effort to take advantage of modern PC hardware.

edit: It's not that hard to at least pop in an ambient occlusion algorithm (NVIDIA has one they urge developers to use) or throw in some tessellation. Thinking about this really pisses me off, as TES 3/4 looked amazing for their time and used every trick up their sleeve in order to make the graphics look amazing when maxed out.

These look like Oblivion... http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideo...hot_252357.jpg
... Same old talking points. I will eat a hat if Skyrim runs well (by well I mean at least 1440x900 min resolution and 30+ fps at all high settings) on the above listed hardware. Will you eat a hat if it doesn't? People round here really need to lower their expectation, PC gaming isn't dead, but don't expect anything to push your $500 cards for another two years. It's what the market is asking for atm.
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