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Sorry to say, but unless you have a MicroCenter near you, you're pretty much screwed.
MicroCenter has good deals on cpu+mobo combo.
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Don't bother downgrading the CPU,for $15 you get a better binned chip and unlocked multipliers.The mobo is what concerns me,that quad core is going to work the simple 4+1 VRM design very hard.I would find another $30 to get atleast something like this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...659&CatId=5528
much better performance also than the nVidia based board.
your RAM while sufficient,is pretty slow.
this kit is cheaper and faster
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...144&CatId=4534
One: it's not better binned. The 925 needs to meet 95W TDP requirements. Two: It's a $25 difference, go back to math class.

If you want to get a decent OC, you'll want to use BIOS anyway. And the two will probably OC the same.
    
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For budget gaming I'd get more along the lines of these:

Athlon II x3 @ 3.2Ghz - $80

XFX 6850 - $180 before $20 MIR

You'll be better for gaming, and you come out to the same price as your combo and then also have a $20 Mail in Rebate!
     
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post #14 of 29
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If it's for gaming, change the CPU and GPU. Get a Phenom II X4 925 for $115 instead. It'll OC the same since it's a C3 revision. With the saved money, buy a GTX 460 768MB for $140. It OCs very high and will give him higher gaming performance than the Radeon HD 5770.
Why would he get a dual core instead of a quad? Also if your going to get a better GPU get a 6790 for 140 which is better than a GTX 460 768MB.


Also he is not overclocking, do you see a third party HSF in the budget anywhere? This isnt two years ago, a quad core will make a huge difference.
Edited by james_ant - 4/18/11 at 9:44am
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For budget gaming I'd get more along the lines of these:

Athlon II x3 @ 3.2Ghz - $80

XFX 6850 - $180 before $20 MIR

You'll be better for gaming, and you come out to the same price as your combo and then also have a $20 Mail in Rebate!
I was thinking the same thing...

just an example
also there is a great deal for a 5850
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?EdpNo=199805
Edited by Redwoodz - 4/18/11 at 9:57am
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post #16 of 29
Nvidia 460 is dead long live Ati 6790.

Even thou you can live with 6790 on high resolutions, if you can afford, get a 6850 if you're gonna use a 1080p monitor. 6850 has a better idle power usage thanks to its only 1x 6 pin Pci-e power design.

PS: I was grimacingly gonna suggest Silverstone Strider 600w for that price but I saw Rosewill was also Single Rail design Single rail can't fail either way so go for it.
Edited by Catscratch - 4/18/11 at 10:23am
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Why would he get a dual core instead of a quad? Also if your going to get a better GPU get a 6790 for 140 which is better than a GTX 460 768MB.


Also he is not overclocking, do you see a third party HSF in the budget anywhere? This isnt two years ago, a quad core will make a huge difference.
Err, what?

The Phenom II X4 925 is a Quad-Core. Do you see where it has written "X4" in the name? Also, I don't know in what dream land you're in, but the AMD Radeon HD 6970 is noticeably slower than the GTX 460 768MB.



And also, you seem to forget that you can over-clock on stock voltage. You can get 3.2GHz out of the 925 without touching voltages.
    
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Nvidia 460 is dead long live Ati 6790.
*sigh* Fanboy...
    
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Well the thing that concerns me the most is that motherboard. I would probably go with the AMD Phenom II x4 925 instead of the 955. It is 95 watts so I would feel much safer on a cheaper board as it will likely run a lot cooler. My 925 only goes up to 46 degrees in prime 95 @ 3.64 GHZ. I am pretty sure a 955 at the same speed would be significantly warmer, and for a budget motherboard might be dangerous. Also, the 925 is actually great for gaming, even @ 2.8 GHZ it is easily sufficient for a budget build.

That power supply doesn't seem to have the 80+ certification which worries me. I guess for a budget build you might have to go for that. But really a quality power supply is the foundation of any good build. So I would rather not skimp on that if I was him.

I am more familiar with the Nvidia cards performance, so I am not really to sure how good the 5770 is. My advice would be for your friend to just save up like $100 more and get the GTX 460 1gb model along with a better power supply with the 80+ certification.

Assuming that the motherboard can handle the 925, and with an improved power supply and a GTX 460 1gb model your friend would be going from a mediocre, questionably fast build to an actual real nice gaming pc.

I would really just tell him to save a little more money. He is right on the borderline of having an actual nice computer, he should go for it.
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I have to say that this looks pretty solid in all honesty. ^^ Should game well.
     
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