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post #51 of 74
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The name Open Office makes much more sense than Libre Office. Libre Office? Seriously? Book Office? Open Office makes sense because it's Open Source. I actually like it better than Libre Office. All good things must come to an end.
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(The "libre" in the suite's name is derived from a Latinate root meaning "liberty.")
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This actually makes me sad. It was nice seeing something having an almost competitive market-share against Microcrap. I know there are alternatives to OOo and MS Office, but dang. OOo did have a certain amount of momentum to it.

I was hoping for future developments to improve upon Impress and Calc to be more format and user friendly, however I suppose that thought is a wash now :/
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Wait what? Every time I tried opening a damn DOCX file from someone who couldn't bother to change it to DOC I lose the first and last page of it in openoffice and libreoffice. And I've got the latest versions of both.
That's my point. Office Open XML isn't actually supported by any major office suite, including the office suite for which it is the default file format.
    
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I know that Oracle only owns the OpenOffice.org trademark, but who owns the OpenOffice trademark then? Maybe the community can collect donations and buy it from them. I agree that LibreOffice doesn't roll off the tongue that good.
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I know that Oracle only owns the OpenOffice.org trademark, but who owns the OpenOffice trademark then?
Technically nobody. An SEM company applied for the trademark on April 18th though.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...006:er4o8d.2.1
    
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Technically nobody. An SEM company applied for the trademark on April 18th though.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...006:er4o8d.2.1
Then why the F did Sun add the ".org"?
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Lmao, saw this coming a mile off! Nice excuse Oracle, even if the fork didn't exist, they'd have commercialised Openoffice anyway...
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post #58 of 74
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Yuck. And keep producing documents that aren't standard and thus won't work properly on alternative office suites.

No offense really, but I think a lot of people don't think about the cons of using such an proprietary office suite, that intentionally tries to destroy all open and free competitors.

Admittedly some projects need MS Office, but I wouldn't be too proud of using it if I had the choice.
Honestly, the majority of the business world uses Microsoft Office, so having to worry about alternative office suites is a non issue for most. Plus, it's the alternative suites problem if they can't properly open an MSO doc, and not MSO. MSO docs work in MSO as they were intended.

I teach Microsoft Office, and I've used OOo and MSO extensively. OOo just doesn't have everything. It's got a lot for the home user, but for a business it's still lacking.

I'm going to go download LibreOffice and check it out since I didn't realize it was a genuine fork on OOo. I thought it was an independent clone of something that was already a clone.
    
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Honestly, the majority of the business world uses Microsoft Office, so having to worry about alternative office suites is a non issue for most. Plus, it's the alternative suites problem if they can't properly open an MSO doc, and not MSO. MSO docs work in MSO as they were intended.

I teach Microsoft Office, and I've used OOo and MSO extensively. OOo just doesn't have everything. It's got a lot for the home user, but for a business it's still lacking.

I'm going to go download LibreOffice and check it out since I didn't realize it was a genuine fork on OOo. I thought it was an independent clone of something that was already a clone.
ROFL. The irony in your now italicized sentence is that MSO docs didn't even work in MSO versions before 2007. I remember when I was "new" to the tech world and got MSO2007 and sent a paper to a professor. I got an email back stating they couldn't open it and asked me to use Word. DOCX doesn't work with any MSO before 2007 by default. And in 2007 I seemed to be the only person with it.

The majority of businesses probably could save a large amount of money by not paying the licensing fees to MS. MSO has it's advantages, but I don't see them being that large. What's really amusing is I could use a MSO 2007 "School book" (literally had to buy it for a class) to learn about Libre and OOo. The only thing I miss from MSO is it's looks, not being overzealous with the numbering and bullets (OOo and Libre love doing that), and it's grammar check (even though it was wrong a lot).

What exactly can MSO do that couldn't be ported or already done in Libre?
     
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ROFL. The irony in your now italicized sentence is that MSO docs didn't even work in MSO versions before 2007. I remember when I was "new" to the tech world and got MSO2007 and sent a paper to a professor. I got an email back stating they couldn't open it and asked me to use Word. DOCX doesn't work with any MSO before 2007 by default. And in 2007 I seemed to be the only person with it.

The majority of businesses probably could save a large amount of money by not paying the licensing fees to MS. MSO has it's advantages, but I don't see them being that large. What's really amusing is I could use a MSO 2007 "School book" (literally had to buy it for a class) to learn about Libre and OOo. The only thing I miss from MSO is it's looks, not being overzealous with the numbering and bullets (OOo and Libre love doing that), and it's grammar check (even though it was wrong a lot).

What exactly can MSO do that couldn't be ported or already done in Libre?
Ever heard of saving a file in 97-03 format? Works fine with any version of word right out of the box. Also, I'm quite sure that Calc is not on the same level as Excel.

I know a law firm in Buffalo who has tried to switch solely to OOo. I've spoken with a friend there before about how that transition had gone for them, being that this was the first major business I had heard of making such a switch and it would be kinda cool to find out.

I cannot remember what her exact complaints were, but I know she and everyone else hated it because of compatibility issues with nearly every client the law firm had.

I'll do some digging myself between Libre and MSO, and I'm sure I'll find a few things for you.

Oh, and if you italicize something that's been quoted, no one will ever know because quotes become italicized.
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