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I have been reading all over the place that for the 1090t to go around 1600mhz with tighter timings over 2000 mhz with looser timings.but i have been messing with my new C8 Dominator 2000's for 3 days now trying to find a sweet spot with the cpu @ 4ghz. I keep trying different setups higher NB upto 3000mhz Diiferent multiplier and Fsb speeds and i have been using Maxxmem to test it and everytime i am getting better results at looser timings higher mhz, The sweet spot so far that i can find with my setup is 9.9.9.24 1T 2006 mhz with 3000NB. Is there some other memory test i should try ? or maby my setup just prefers higher mhz over timings?

This whole subject is frustrating i must have read 100 articles on this subject and still drives me nuts. I am trying to go between 1600 and 1800 with tight timings and see a better score in maxxmem.
any input guys? I am just curious.
   
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post #2 of 8
I wouldnt use a memory test or memory benchmark for this, id use 3dmark vantage as it will test the overall system. But generally for amd tighter timings is always better than higher frequency.
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The main reason i got new memory was to get higher 3dmark scores my scores go up @ 9.9.9.24 2000 mhz with at close to 3000 NB as i can get with the pc stable.I really think the difference between for example 1600 @ 7.7.7.24 1T VS 2000 @ 9.9.9.24 1T is a very small difference but the 2000mhz does seem to shine running 3dmark.I have no idea about all this anymore i really believe its different setups run diffrently in the case of timings vs mhz. If anyone can list some really good Memory benchmarking tools please do because i really want to play with this alot more.I will post some shots of some of the benchmarks but as of right now i only saved the highest ones of 3dmark and maxxmem2 and they were both using 2000mhz i only got into all this because i noticed i was getting much better 3dmark scores.
   
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Here is so far the best i can get everything and still be 100% Stable. Maby this can help someone with there setup.i am still tweaking it more though ,but i want to see what i can get 100% stable though. I can get alot better results but lose stability when running prime.



   
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post #5 of 8
Lower timings can often equal the output at higher speed on AMD platforms, unlike Intel
Which is why 1600 CL6-7 can come very close to 2000 CL9 in benchmarks
post #6 of 8
In my case it is slightly the opposite. I am running a 1090T @ 4.2GHz, NB @ 3000 MHz, and I see a huge improvement running 1500 MHz 7-8-7-22-1T over the higher clock but looser timings of 1800MHz 9-9-9-24-1T. This is on 2x4GB of corsair DDR3 1600. So I suspect that it could just be system specific?
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Higher speeds have the effect of overcoming looser timings. Higher speeds will almost always produce better benchmarks on any system. I'm not sure how the myth of slower speeds with tighter timings got started, but I have yet to see any evidence to support it heavily.

The effective latency of 1600-7-7-7 is ~8.75NS, bandwidth peaks around 12,800MB/s.
The effective latency of 1800-8-8-8 is ~8.89NS, Bandwidth peaks around 14,400MB/s.
The effective latency of 2000-9-9-9 is ~9.00NS, Bandwidth peaks around 16,000MB/s.

Higher speeds produce higher raw bandwidth with very little loss of effective latency.

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there is no right answer to this question as it differs to the situation. Latency(tighter timings) and bandwidth(higher frequency) are best tested in sandra not maxmemm. Best way to find 24\\7 settings is to do a few sandra runs and find a balance. As for benches your gunna have to test each bench mark to figure out what is best. Most of the newer benchmarks bandwidth is more important than latency, and vice versa for the older benchmarks.
    
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