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Asus ENGTX580 DCII or MSI N580GTX Lightning

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These seem to be the top 2 GTX580's and what do you think is better for heavy OC'ing?

As soon as I sell my 2 reference 6970's I'm grabbing one of these for my MATX system.
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i'd go with lightning
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If you don't have SLI plans, DCII.

If you do have SLI plans, just weigh how good your case airflow will be and if you've got space for a 2 3-slot cards.

DCII is the better card imo, but the 3-slot design is a major consideration.
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The ASUS is an amazing card, but it does take up three slots. I've enjoyed mine since the day I got it, no problems, and still running strong. Going to SLI in a few months. Make sure you have room for it if you plan on expanding.
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This is the GTX 580 I have, and I love it with the Arctic accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler. And it cames with a $25 promo right now.
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If you don't have SLI plans, DCII.

If you do have SLI plans, just weigh how good your case airflow will be and if you've got space for a 2 3-slot cards.

DCII is the better card imo, but the 3-slot design is a major consideration.
No I won't be doing SLI. Really I am wondering which card can handle the extra voltage, both in cooling capacity and voltage capacity.

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Originally Posted by PcKiller View Post
This is the GTX 580 I have, and I love it with the Arctic accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler. And it cames with a $25 promo right now.
I don't like the 2 year warranty. I would just pay the extra amount and get the Sparkle version if I wanted the AC cooler.

Really I am just into the non reference PCB and wondering if the extra Power Phases and VREG's on the Lightning are worth it or the beefy cooler on the Asus.
Edited by Segovax - 4/18/11 at 6:55pm
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the DCII beats the TFIII every time, which means better temps which means better clocks/more volts. Whereas the Lightning does some amazing clocks
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the DCII beats the TFIII every time, which means better temps which means better clocks/more volts. Whereas the Lightning does some amazing clocks
You don't think the extra Power Phases and the other changes in the non reference PCB on the Lightning make a difference?
Edited by Segovax - 4/18/11 at 7:03pm
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I think I would prefer the DCII in just about every aspect except for one. MSI has confirmed that they do in fact bin their higher tier cards, while I would guess that Asus does as well I'm not positive. So in my opinion the choice would come down to if you want to have the best chance of getting a good VID or can't fit a triple slot then go MSI, if you don't mind taking your chances on the silicon lottery and can fit a triple slot then go Asus, it will have better temps and acoustics with all else being equal. Ether way the are both fantastic cards, so you shouldn't have any regrets with whichever one you choose.

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You don't think the extra Power Phases and the other changes in the non reference PCB make a difference?
It may make a difference but 8+2 power phases is nothing to scoff at either, and the Asus is a custom PCB with better components than reference as well.
Edited by juano - 4/18/11 at 7:07pm
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It makes a difference when used for it's intended purpose. Putting a 580 lightning in some small box for an mATX rig is defeating the purpose of the card.
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