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1C Idle temp difference among the cores?
Typing mistake? If not, this is very good.

I think it is better to test the Archon with the CPU under full load condition. And remember the general rule of thumb about the effect of ambient temp on CPU Load temp: for every 1C ambient temp rise, there is about 1.4C rise in CPU Load temp. Use this to make adjustment when comparing to other people's result.

And if you really want to compare Idle temp, make sure all cores are really idling. Check Task Manager to ascertain all cores are 0% usage. And, make sure you have same Energy Saving settings as others because downclocking can make a difference.

Also, putting other things aside and only considering the temperature factor, applying too much TIM would not bring a much higher temperature. If the mounting screws are tightened to give proper pressure, any excess paste will simply be squeezed out.
To check for an adequate amount, just remove the heatsink and visually inspect the spread pattern. If it is evenly distributed, then it is good. Do it once or twice and you will know the right amount.
Thanks. And no, that wasn't a typo - I have 44-43-43-44 on my cores. I'm just thinking, with this cooler, shouldn't o be getting far better temps?

I'll run a full load test with IBT, and post back here tomorrow
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shinigamibob, did you remount the cooler? any improvements after testing?
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shinigamibob, did you remount the cooler? any improvements after testing?
Sorry not yet. I'm planning on doing it on Friday because I have the day off. I'll be sure to post back here.
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So, I've run a full load test as is, and the max temperatures of my cores are as follows: 73-73-69-75

This was from the Intel Burn Test v2.50 on a very high stress level.
According to reviews, the Archon shouldn't even break 60C overclocked... whats up with mine?
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Reading through the thread, I saw that you put over a pea-sized amount when installing. That's the problem. I don't know where this pea-sized thing started, but you should be applying the equivalent of an uncooked grain of rice i.e. not a lot.
Also, I see no mention of what TIM you are using. There can be as much as 10*C difference in temps depending on which TIM is used.
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Reading through the thread, I saw that you put over a pea-sized amount when installing. That's the problem. I don't know where this pea-sized thing started, but you should be applying the equivalent of an uncooked grain of rice i.e. not a lot.
Also, I see no mention of what TIM you are using. There can be as much as 10*C difference in temps depending on which TIM is used.
Oh wow... I have seen in places that the TIM applies should be only the size of a grain of rice. I never really believed that, but it makes much more sense. I'm using the Thermalright Chill Factor III TIM. In all honesty though, while I was installing, I ended up putting a whole glob of the TIM. That's probably my problem right there.
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post #17 of 20
your cores were withing 1c, thats not bad
if you had air bubbles there should have been hot spots

redo the tim isnt a bad idea if you used too much
use Isopropyl alcohol to clean the cpu, heatsink and around the socket, then let it dry

1/4 pea to grain of rice is enough tim
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Oh wow... I have seen in places that the TIM applies should be only the size of a grain of rice. I never really believed that, but it makes much more sense. I'm using the Thermalright Chill Factor III TIM. In all honesty though, while I was installing, I ended up putting a whole glob of the TIM. That's probably my problem right there.
OK You are definitely using the good stuff, so that's not the problem. Then it has to be how much you are applying.
There only needs to be enough TIM to fill in the minute imperfections and small spaces between the cooler and CPU. I would do several applications, and remove the cooler each time to see how the TIM spread, as well as temps with each application. That way, you can get a "feel" for how much TIM is appropriate. Practice, practice, practice.
Oh, and if you run out of TIM, go here to get more - http://www.svc.com/thermal-compound.html
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How about this then: On stock vcore at 3.8Ghz up from 3.06Ghz, the highest core is idling at 44C, the others at 43C. I've seen the Archon get significantly better temperatures than that. What do you think the cause of this might be?
Ambient room temperatures can cause high and low idles, but idle temps don't really matter as much as load temps.

Make sure to not use too much paste as well. You only need a thin layer between the CPU and heatsink, and make sure to only apply it to the CPU surface and allow the baseplate of the heatsink to do the spreading work.

Also I'm not sure how many fans you've got in your HAF but if you have a spare 140mm like I did from the rear exhaust I moved my single 5.25" drive to the lowest possible slot on the front and added the 140mm with an extension for the power blowing directly to the cooler in my case. Helped a little bit for temps.



If will fit very snugly between the 5.25" mounting rails and will most likely make grooves, which is good cause you know it won't move or fall over.

You can also use a 120mm fan in there if you need two 5.25" bays, just use some kind of foam around the frame to make it snug.
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Ambient room temperatures can cause high and low idles, but idle temps don't really matter as much as load temps.

Make sure to not use too much paste as well. You only need a thin layer between the CPU and heatsink, and make sure to only apply it to the CPU surface and allow the baseplate of the heatsink to do the spreading work.

Also I'm not sure how many fans you've got in your HAF but if you have a spare 140mm like I did from the rear exhaust I moved my single 5.25" drive to the lowest possible slot on the front and added the 140mm with an extension for the power blowing directly to the cooler in my case. Helped a little bit for temps.



If will fit very snugly between the 5.25" mounting rails and will most likely make grooves, which is good cause you know it won't move or fall over.

You can also use a 120mm fan in there if you need two 5.25" bays, just use some kind of foam around the frame to make it snug.
That is a good idea, except that I have 3 drive bays used at any given time. I could try for 2 80mm fans though...
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