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gonna have to pop to OCUK and get some quick spinpoints before they become rebranded seagate drives. I dont understand why samsung would do this though.

they should have merged with someone who already makes quality drives like WD or Toshiba
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I've noticed alot of Bias and brand-hate in this thread towards Seagate. Let me tell you this I've had alot of their Hard Drives from their earlier series to the current 7200.12 which I am utilizing in my main system. My experience has been nothing but positive. Their customer service during the 7200.11 Crisis could have been improved but I have had no issues with either of my Seagate drives.
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But... I like Samsung Hard Drives and only buy them ... what now?
Buy as many Spinpoint F4 2TBs as you can since you already have an SSD.
    
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Studies based on samples of thousands mean more to a rational person than the personal experience of one.
Samples based off the 7200.11. It was well acknowledged that those drives had certain problems with firmware which is what that article specifically states. However the 7200.12 do not exhibit the same issues with their firmware as their predecessor. The article itself is outdated and irrelevant as such because they compare a previous series rather than the current Seagate 7200.12. Also consider the article date of publication.

However the way I see it is that Toms Hardware simply published a controversial report to generate site traffic than to expose a pattern of hardware failure on a brand basis.
Edited by 45nm - 4/19/11 at 4:42am
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I love Seagate drives - all my WD drives ended up toast over the years. My old Seagate 4.3 GB drive from 1998 is still running strong in an old 550 Mhz Acer tower that my dad uses to surf the net. I have never had a Seagate drive die on me or give me issues.

Although I wish Samsung would just continue to make their own HDDs, I see this as a good thing.
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This is terrible news. Samsung made epic drives for the price you paid.
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Samples based off the 7200.11. It was well acknowledged that those drives had certain problems with firmware which is what that article specifically states. However the 7200.12 do not exhibit the same issues with their firmware as their predecessor. The article itself is outdated and irrelevant as such because they compare a previous series rather than the current Seagate 7200.12. Also consider the article date of publication.

However the way I see it is that Toms Hardware simply published a controversial report to generate site traffic than to expose a pattern of hardware failure on a brand basis.
RTA. The point of this article was to show Hard Drive reliability over a long period of time (3-5 years). How the hell are they gonna include a 7200.12? How can they EVEN include reliable data for a Hard Drive series that was introduced in 2009 and went mainstream at the beginning of 2010? You think one to one year-and-a-half of reliability is enough to conclude reliability over a long period? Newsflash: it's not.
That, and they included the 7200.10, which doesn't have firmware issues, just like the 7200.12. If they included 7200.12 and 7200.11, the results would've been largely the same.


See where the 7200.10 is included?

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Samples based off the 7200.11. It was well acknowledged that those drives had certain problems with firmware which is what that article specifically states. However the 7200.12 do not exhibit the same issues with their firmware as their predecessor. The article itself is outdated and irrelevant as such because they compare a previous series rather than the current Seagate 7200.12. Also consider the article date of publication.

However the way I see it is that Toms Hardware simply published a controversial report to generate site traffic than to expose a pattern of hardware failure on a brand basis.
What evidence do you have to show that the 7200.12 are more reliable than 7200.11? While the article is slightly outdated, it's still the best info we can find on hard drive reliablity by brand.

Another point of data is Newegg user reviews. While the reviews can't be considered scientific evidence, it's still an indication of the initial failure rate of hard drive. Now I know people will blame Newegg's packaging, but all the bare drives are packed equally poorly, so they took an equal amount of abuse during shipping.

Samsung F3 1TB bare drive, 14% of reviews rated it 1 or 2 stars.
Seagate 7200.12 1TB bare drive, 27% of reviews rated it 1 or 2 stars.
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RTA. The point of this article was to show Hard Drive reliability over a long period of time (3-5 years). How the hell are they gonna include a 7200.12? How can they EVEN include reliable data for a Hard Drive series that was introduced in 2009 and went mainstream at the beginning of 2010? You think one to one year-and-a-half of reliability is enough to conclude reliability over a long period? Newsflash: it's not.
That, and they included the 7200.10, which doesn't have firmware issues, just like the 7200.12. If they included 7200.12 and 7200.11, the results would've been largely the same.


See where the 7200.10 is included?

Be gone, troll.
Perhaps you omitted a Key detail.

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Лидер рынка по продажам Seagate, наоборот, по долговечности устройств уступает остальным производителям, в основном, из-за винчестеров серии 7200.11. Сбор данных о надежности новой серии жестких дисков 7200.12 продолжается.
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Market leader Seagate gives up it's position to other Hard Drive Manufacturers mainly because of the Winchester series 7200.11. Data is being gathered for the new series of the 7200.12
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апрель 2010
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April 2010
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Можно сделать поправку на российскую специфику: по собственным данным Seagate, ее доля на отечественном рынке – более 40%
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A correction can also be made for Russian specifications. Seagate's Data shows that it's Russian share is over 40% of the Russian market

Edited by 45nm - 4/19/11 at 4:59am
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