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this is right, also when running realtemp, it doesnt matter what your tjmax value is at, be it 80. 90 or 100, its the distance TO tjmax that stays the same, never let it go lower than 20



in my opinion IBT is better than prime.
i have had overclocks pass stable on prime95 after 6hrs and yet fail in IBT in 30 mins.
the reason your cpu gets hotter, is because IBT stresses the cpu more, therefore more heat.
but to be honest, i have run both before, i will run IBT first and if its stable, then i will run prime blend
but at least you helped the OP more than me, thumb.gif

to OP, glad to hear you are getting there thumb.gifsmile.gif

Only reason IBT gives an error before Prime95 is either because of the ridiculous heat it creates, or that the load V-core goes even lower with IBT VS Prime 95. It's totally unrealistic and a useless stability test. Gives no indication if a system is stable for normal use.

It's crap.
    
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IBT is overrated. You can build 24/7 stable systems with nothing but OCCT and Prime95.
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Only reason IBT gives an error before Prime95 is either because of the ridiculous heat it creates, or that the load V-core goes even lower with IBT VS Prime 95. It's totally unrealistic and a useless stability test. Gives no indication if a system is stable for normal use.

It's crap.

Funnily enough, IBT has found more errors with overclocks than prime has done for me. I ran Prime95 for 48hours and it passed, afterword i ran IBT and it failed on the 19th run. And don't say its because of temperatures, as it wasn't (Below 70) rolleyes.gif

If i were you, OP, 400x9 for 3.6GHz seems reasonable, most people can do it with 1.5v - 1.55v easily. I think the reason why stability fails after 400 FSB is because its changing you're Memory speed as well. So increasing the Multiplier will be the logical solution, Unless you want to play around with you're ram settings to get a higher FSB, Such as loosening the timings and increasing memory voltage.

Just do it step by step and you'll soon be there! thumb.gif
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Funnily enough, IBT has found more errors with overclocks than prime has done for me. I ran Prime95 for 48hours and it passed, afterword i ran IBT and it failed on the 19th run. And don't say its because of temperatures, as it wasn't (Below 70) rolleyes.gif

If i were you, OP, 400x9 for 3.6GHz seems reasonable, most people can do it with 1.5v - 1.55v easily. I think the reason why stability fails after 400 FSB is because its changing you're Memory speed as well. So increasing the Multiplier will be the logical solution, Unless you want to play around with you're ram settings to get a higher FSB, Such as loosening the timings and increasing memory voltage.

Just do it step by step and you'll soon be there! thumb.gif

Probably because IBT dropped your load V-core lower VS Prime95. So it's not worth **** anyway. Try to compensate by upping the V-core when trying IBT, so it it the same at load VS Prime95, then you will not fail.

Anyway, taking IBT's V-core drop into consideration is only ridiculous, as no app in the world will drop the V-core that far.
    
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Only reason IBT gives an error before Prime95 is either because of the ridiculous heat it creates, or that the load V-core goes even lower with IBT VS Prime 95. It's totally unrealistic and a useless stability test. Gives no indication if a system is stable for normal use.

It's crap.

i am not going to argue, you seem to know it all rolleyes.gif
but even if you do a quick search of these forums or on google, most people agree IBT is better for stability testing.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/712102-intel-burn-test-vs-prime95.html
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IBT is overrated. You can build 24/7 stable systems with nothing but OCCT and Prime95.

correct me if i am wrong, but OCCT uses linpac. isn't that the same as IBT rolleyes.gif

to OP, sorry about this, i was just trying to help, this is supposed to be a community forum, who really cares about IBT or prime, as long as you have a nice stable overclock smile.gif
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i am not going to argue, you seem to know it all rolleyes.gif
but even if you do a quick search of these forums or on google, most people agree IBT is better for stability testing.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/712102-intel-burn-test-vs-prime95.html



correct me if i am wrong, but OCCT uses linpac. isn't that the same as IBT rolleyes.gif

to OP, sorry about this, i was just trying to help, this is supposed to be a community forum, who really cares about IBT or prime, as long as you have a nice stable overclock smile.gif

Most people... Lol! I've been doing this since 1995... And I've simply found IBT to be useless. It's the V-drop it causes that make it fail faster VS Prime95. Nothing else. If you use LLC (Load Line Calibration) IBT will have higher Load V-core VS Prime95, and Prime 95 will fail first.
    
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Most people... Lol! I've been doing this since 1995... And I've simply found IBT to be useless. It's the V-drop it causes that make it fail faster VS Prime95. Nothing else. If you use LLC (Load Line Calibration) IBT will have higher Load V-core VS Prime95, and Prime 95 will fail first.

Well, you see my board doesn't have LLC so i need to make sure my system is stable at whatever stress is induced, weather it be linpack or prime95, Even running games fails faster than prime95, so that means they are a useless stress tester for having such a huge Vdroop. there is nothing wrong with double/tripple checking stability. If one stress test fails then the overclock fails. simple as. For people like me who don't have LLC, we need to put our hardware under much more stress to see a stability test come through.
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Hi guys,

Thanks for your contribution in this subject. I'll try to put multi back up to 9x and lower the FSB. I still need to address the RAM settings which I have no idea where to start from, but at this stage I am still focusing in a stable CPU at 3.6Ghz +

It is quite interesting with this machine when OC. H70 is taking the heat away so well that the temperatures are yet to pass 50 Celsius, but it looks like I am needing to use a bucket load of volts, much more than the other chaps... I guess it doesn't matter as long as my mobo/cpu can hold the push.

Saturday morning here, continuing with my OC! smile.gif
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Hi guys,

Thanks for your contribution in this subject. I'll try to put multi back up to 9x and lower the FSB. I still need to address the RAM settings which I have no idea where to start from, but at this stage I am still focusing in a stable CPU at 3.6Ghz +

It is quite interesting with this machine when OC. H70 is taking the heat away so well that the temperatures are yet to pass 50 Celsius, but it looks like I am needing to use a bucket load of volts, much more than the other chaps... I guess it doesn't matter as long as my mobo/cpu can hold the push.

Saturday morning here, continuing with my OC! smile.gif

If that H70 can keep your temps at 50C when at 1.45 V-core under load?! That is fantastic!

If so I will consider one for my Q9650! I max out at 4.2GHz at about 1.41v under full Prime 95 load. hottest core hit 78C. Maybe with that H70 I could push my CPU further. Because my P5Q-E can handle up tp 480FSB +. That would be 480FSB x9 = 4320Mhz. Maybe not worth the cost of the H70, but I can always take that H70 with me for my next upgrade wink.gif Right now I'm using a Thermaltake Extreme Ultra with a 120mm 1200rpm - 1700rpm at full load..
    
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Originally Posted by j.col;13233316 
to OP, sorry about this, i was just trying to help, this is supposed to be a community forum, who really cares about IBT or prime, as long as you have a nice stable overclock smile.gif

Thanks mate smile.gif I am very thankful that you guys are happy to spend your free time helping a random stranger get his computer OC hehe.

Cheers.
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