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Such a pathetic comeback from such a pathetic person....
I didn't intend it to be a comeback; I was just stating facts. I really couldn't understand you because you weren't using proper English. I do find it sad that you actually went back to edit the post, yet I still can't understand it.

FYI, the word "your" and the word "you're" have separate meanings. I believe I learned this when I was around 11 years old.

Yes, I am a pathetic person. Thank you for your responses. I have finally received the advice from an "experienced" overclocker that I was looking for.
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Vcore and CPU/NB voltage are HUGE for those clocks, even with aircooling.
Most of the 1090-s will do 3.6GHz with stock voltage.
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Don't be using auto timings for your RAM, they set ridiculous values that probably don't work
Start at a stock 9-9-9 (don't go any higher as it would be impractical); if your speed is 1333 or around there, you should begin lowering the timings to compensate for speed loss
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Vcore and CPU/NB voltage are HUGE for those clocks, even with aircooling.
Most of the 1090-s will do 3.6GHz with stock voltage.
Your turn for the wrong cpu award......
i did mention the massive vcore but the OP knows better and becomes abusive when you mention it...
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Vcore and CPU/NB voltage are HUGE for those clocks, even with aircooling.
Most of the 1090-s will do 3.6GHz with stock voltage.
As mentioned before, these settings passed 20 passes of IBT and 10 hours of P95 in-place FFTs with CPU temps max at 55C. As I mentioned before, these chips are known to require a lot of Vcore especially when using budget cooling. I don't want to sound like a meanie, but please do research before giving advice.
As I mentioned on this thread, I can't get 3.6GHz stable with anything less than 1.5375Vcore. I want to add that Vdroop makes it around 1.4875 on full load. Also, I wanted to add that there are people who have used over 1.575Vcore to this CPU with no problems. I know of one OCnet member who used 1.7Vcore successfully.

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Don't be using auto timings for your RAM, they set ridiculous values that probably don't work
Start at a stock 9-9-9 (don't go any higher as it would be impractical); if your speed is 1333 or around there, you should begin lowering the timings to compensate for speed loss
Yes, I did use manual timings to no avail. I have also read that many people have overclocked my RAM over 1600MHz. Do you think it is a RAM issue? Should I set the other settings manually (other RAM settings in addition to timings)?


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Your turn for the wrong cpu award......
i did mention the massive vcore but the OP knows better and becomes abusive when you mention it...
"Wrong CPU award"? WTH? I am confused on how you consider me saying "please research before giving advice" as being abusive. Some people are more sensitive than others, I guess. But, troll on if you must. FYI, calling someone pathetic violates OCnet TOS while saying "please research before giving advice" does not. OCnet TOS also expects members to "Use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation".
Edited by charlie310 - 4/20/11 at 9:10am
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"Wrong CPU award"? WTH? I am confused on how you consider me saying "please research before giving advice" as being abusive. Some people are more sensitive than others, I guess. But, troll on if you must.


I was talking to IOSEFINI,not you.
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If you're failing large FTT's try dropping the speed of your ram.

Large FTT's stress RAM/IMC more so going to 1333 mhz or even 1033 to stabilize might help.

Also dropping the speed of your CPU-NB frequency might help.

Large FTT failure indicates (for me at least) not enough voltage on CPU-NB so either drop the frequency or up the voltage.

Faster the RAM is the more voltage your CPU-NB needs. Faster the NB frequency the more voltage you need.

Truthfully just sounds like you can't hit those speeds. What were your last settings which were prime95 24hr stable?
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If you're failing large FTT's try dropping the speed of your ram.

Large FTT's stress RAM/IMC more so going to 1333 mhz or even 1033 to stabilize might help.

Also dropping the speed of your CPU-NB frequency might help.

Large FTT failure indicates (for me at least) not enough voltage on CPU-NB so either drop the frequency or up the voltage.

Faster the RAM is the more voltage your CPU-NB needs. Faster the NB frequency the more voltage you need.

Truthfully just sounds like you can't hit those speeds. What were your last settings which were prime95 24hr stable?
Yes, what you say makes perfect sense, and it was what I thought initially. But, when I tested settings below, P95 Custom test 2048-4096kB @ 3GB RAM failed:

240 MHz Reference clock
3.6 GHz @ 1.5375 Vcore
1280 MHz RAM (9-9-9-24-2T) @ 1.5V
CPU/NB 1980 MHz @ 1.34375V
HT Link 1980 MHz @ 1.2V
NB @ 1.1V

Note that all frequencies above are below stock (other than CPU, of course). Also note that the settings above passed 20 passes of IBT (maximum memory) and 10 hours of P95 8kB in-place FFTs. It just can't pass the P95Large FFTs test. I even tried increasing the voltage to CPU/NB, HT, & NB, and I still couldn't get it stable.

Perhaps you are right, and I may not be able to reach a stable OC @ 240MHz FSB. The last time I had a truly stable OC was before I bought my CPU HSF. Since it was a while ago, I don't remember the exact specs. I do remember that the FSB was 220MHz which made my CPU 3.3GHz with a slightly increased Vcore (like 1.4x or something). RAM, CPU/NB, and HT link were all overclocked with auto voltage.

Right now I am slowly decreasing my FSB to find a stable OC for only P95 Large FFT Test. Once I find that, chances are these settings will pass IBT and P95 in-place FFTs. I really wish someone would come out with a program that can perform the same tests as P95, but do it in less time. From the looks of it, it will take me over a month to find the best OC since I can only run two tests a day (run one before work, and one before bed). Expert advice on what settings to test would be appreciated, as this would definitely save me a lot of time.

On another note, do you guys think enabling LLC would help me? I am a little nervous when it comes to changing settings for things I am not well-informed about.
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Eh I'm not a fan of LLC but some people swear by it.

Eh unstable specs do no good. I've had the same settings fail at wildly different times during stress testing so to me, its either stable or not.

Are you sure you're FSB max is stable? You could drop everything to stock at the higher FSB (or lower speeds at stock voltage) and make sure you can run prime95 blend for 24 hrs.

If you can't, I would guess the FSB overclock is no good.

Look for the custom large FTT tests. It sounds like your CPU OC is fine, its just your CPU-NB/IMC thats not getting enough voltage.

Inplace FTTs is more for CPU than CPU-NB/IMC so you might be using the wrong test. I would do large FTT without inplace.

prime95 blend test does 12 hrs small ftt than 12 hrs large ftts. So hopefully that'll give you an idea what needs voltage when it fails.

I would suggest you start over and keep track of all multiplers/speeds/voltages/temps.

Once you get that, its easier to spot patterns.

Good luck though.

If it makes you feel any better took almost 2 weeks to "know" my system. Now with my spreadsheet I have a good idea whats stable and whats not now.
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as mentioned before, these settings passed 20 passes of ibt and 10 hours of p95 in-place ffts with cpu temps max at 55c. As i mentioned before, these chips are known to require a lot of vcore especially when using budget cooling. I don't want to sound like a meanie, but please do research before giving advice.
As i mentioned on this thread, i can't get 3.6ghz stable with anything less than 1.5375vcore. I want to add that vdroop makes it around 1.4875 on full load. Also, i wanted to add that there are people who have used over 1.575vcore to this cpu with no problems. I know of one ocnet member who used 1.7vcore successfully.
nvm
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