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I've watercooled before however I've decided to get back in to the game with my new PC.

I've contacted Danger Den about the availability of their Extended Water Box Plus and such so I'm super excited about that. It comes basically made for watercooling so I don't have to worry about where to mount the radiator, drilling holes for fill ports and ventilation. I'll post my current specs here just in case they're needed to answer any of my questions:

Core i7 920 LGA 1366 (Link)
eVGA nVidia GTX 295 (No Link but self explanatory)
6 x 2 GB DDR3 RAM (Link)
EVGA E758-TR Mobo (Link)
KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-1000MA1S 1000W PSU (Link)

So my questions are pretty basic since I've been out of the WC game for a while:

1. What is the difference between MC-TDX and MPC-CPU?
2. I'm going to want to watercool my GPU when the new Keplers come out from nVidia. Is the Black Ice GTX 240 radiator that Danger Den suggested for the case going to be enough for some mad overclocks? The case doesn't seem to have enough room for anything more than 1 120mm radiator but I could fit another single 80mm radiator in if need be.
3. Are there any easy to use kits that allow me to tightly and neatly bundle and sleeve my cables in UV reactive green?
4. What are the best cable management techniques I can employ to keep great airflow?

Thanks in advance for any answer
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post #2 of 5
You might want to look into this case. Then you can put 2 rads in there...

http://www.mountainmods.com/h2go-ano...ase-p-421.html
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1. according to their website, the TDX has more pins but I guess higher restriction, as the MPC-CPU touts lower pins (and doesn't tout lower temp) but higher flow rate? Everything else seems about the same.

2. A GTX240 will not be enough cooling for a CPU and GPU unless Nvidia pulls some efficiency magic out of their hat (which they won't). A 240 will be barely enough for stock clocked CPU and GPU, even an RX. Adding a 120 will help, but not a drastic amount. You'll be able to OC the CPU and GPU though.

3. Yes, all custom kits. There is no easier to use custom kit than another really. If you want easy, stick with a Corsair CPU cooler or a Swiftech H20-320 edge kit and add a GPU block.

4. hide stuff behind your motherboard if the case allows it. I personally didn't like that DD case at all. I love my HAF-X case. Corsair 800D cases are the shiz for hiding cables and making your case look neat. Also, airflow doesn't matter nearly as much when you're watercooling, mainly because you're watercooling the hottest components so only minor airflow is needed for the rest of your components.
post #4 of 5
1.) Cant say don't hear much outside the RASA/EK/Heatkiller/Koolance blocks these days. For that price you might wanna look at the RASA block at least the numbers are well known for it.

2.) For mad over clocks a 240 will not be enough for a cpu/gpu you will want at the vary least a 360.

3.) For sleeving there is MD-PC and a few other retailers not sure if UV green is available.

4.) Depends on your case and setup.
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Wow thanks for all the tips! I've been looking at the cases suggested by you guys and I don't really find them appealing. The closest I can really see is that H2go case. But I mean the Danger Den case has 2 80mm fan slots too that I could toss in some heavy duty micro radiators (link) too with a pull system if I need to. Would the GTX 260 and 1 or 2 micro rads not do the trick if I set my loop to go: Pump -> CPU -> 1 (or 2) Micro rads -> GPU -> GTX 260 rad -> pump? I'm going to use a fillport system rather than a res and I have the 5 speed pump. I'm thinking of going 1/2" ID with a 3/4" OD and anti-kink coils (all UV Green) with barbs and clamps to make sure I don't leak.

Again, I welcome more case suggestions because I'm sure there are some pretty kickin rad cases you guys have seen that I don't know about. If I really can't OC with the 260 and the 2 micros then I'll have to look at alternate casing or maybe see if they can cut those 2 80mm to 120 and stick another 260 in there.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 eVGA X58 SLi eVGA GTX 295 12 GB DDR3 
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