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Viruses for Linux (Ubuntu included) are VERY rare. They are out there but number maybe in the hundreds or maybe a couple thousand at best. Compare that to Windows which has close to around several hundred thousand if not a million viruses for it.

To come across a virus for Ubuntu or linux for that matter you would really have to work at it. And even then they cannot execute themselves automatically for the most part unless they get into startup. You basically have to run the things yourself to get them into your system or have someone else plant them there. In a corporate environment though, the IT department and the companies who set them up work very hard to make sure linux systems are hardened and firewalls are put into place.

They do make antiviruses for linux BTW.
you'd be very hard press indeed to find a linux virus in the wild. the only ones i really have read or heard about are in lab environments, and typically only infected locally, and the damage being insignificant at best...

i'm well aware they have virus scanners for linux, but typically they are for when you share the a drive either with windows locally or on a network, so if you are downloading files in linux, you don't inadvertently infect a windows machine that access that file.
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you'd be very hard press indeed to find a linux virus in the wild. the only ones i really have read or heard about are in lab environments, and typically only infected locally, and the damage being insignificant at best...

i'm well aware they have virus scanners for linux, but typically they are for when you share the a drive either with windows locally or on a network, so if you are downloading files in linux, you don't inadvertently infect a windows machine that access that file.

And the nice thing about linux is that you can easily repair any damage done through terminal or recovery mode. On top of that since everything (in a way) is compartmentalized you don't really have to worry about a virus running amuck.

And a very simple way to REALLY slow down and or stop a virus in its tracks, is to partition your drive into multiple sections, each part assigned to different sections of the file structure:

Partition 1 - /home
Partition 2 - /etc
Partition 3 - /var
etc etc


Since the OS knows how and what to look for (along with where and what to do with things) it isn't affected.
Unless the viruses is "smart" and knows about this, it will just endlessly look for whatever since technically each part of the filesystem is in its own "hard drive". I have the same crap happen when I install patches (IE Mass Effect Bring down the Sky). My Steam folder is on Beta (my RAID 1) while it is looking for ME on Alpha (C:/). Since it cannot find, nor does it know to look on other drives, the patch/DLC crashes.


;_; I scare myself sometimes with the knowledge (or at least parts of the knowledge, some of which needs to be elightened upon) that is in my head.

@ OP - if you feel you are unsecure, you can harden the kernel from within Synaptic. I forget what you need to look for, but I think you can try a search for harden you may find it.

Also setting up a firewall with custom rules works as well. I know Fedora and OpenSuse (I think) comes with a fully customizable IPtables complete with a GUI to do this. I love Fedora and hate it at the same time. only because there is so much you can do to make it secure. I had it installed on my T43 for the longest time and had a couple hackers (friends of friends of friends) try to break in. They failed....badly. >.> Had a friend make me a really nice firewall
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And the nice thing about linux is that you can easily repair any damage done through terminal or recovery mode. On top of that since everything (in a way) is compartmentalized you don't really have to worry about a virus running amuck.

And a very simple way to REALLY slow down and or stop a virus in its tracks, is to partition your drive into multiple sections, each part assigned to different sections of the file structure:

Partition 1 - /home
Partition 2 - /etc
Partition 3 - /var
etc etc

Unless the viruses is "smart" and knows about this, it will just endlessly look for whatever since technically each part of the filesystem is in its own "hard drive". I have the same crap happen when I install patches (IE Mass Effect Bring down the Sky). My Steam folder is on Beta (my RAID 1) while it is looking for ME on Alpha (C:/). Since it cannot find, nor does it know to look on other drives, the patch/DLC crashes.


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the concept you are looking for is "modular" i believe. without root privileges, the best it could do is wreck your home folder/partition, as i'm pretty sure even partitioned like that, linux looks at them as all one drive.

that just a lazy developer honestly , there should be a registry value telling it where to look for the containing folder, its easier to hard code "c:\\Program Files\\look\\here\\for-this.exe"
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the concept you are looking for is "modular" i believe. without root privileges, the best it could do is wreck your home folder/partition, as i'm pretty sure even partitioned like that, linux looks at them as all one drive.

that just a lazy developer honestly , there should be a registry value telling it where to look for the containing folder, its easier to hard code "c:\\Program Files\\look\\here\\for-this.exe"
Yeah and it make crap a pain the butt... I ended up just putting a *fake* Steam folder and sub folders along with ME inside just to get it to patch them moved it all over.
 
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I'd put my money on either logging in on your school network is very insecure or someone guess'd your pass/recovery question along that line.

Linux based OS are very secure. Rarely does anyone attract a problem and when they do, generally they know it right away.
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Yeah and it make crap a pain the butt... I ended up just putting a *fake* Steam folder and sub folders along with ME inside just to get it to patch them moved it all over.
you do know you can mount drives inside folders in windows its a little more leg work than it is in linux (might be slower too, its a hit or miss for me, sometimes i find it speeds things up in windows, other times, i've felt it slowed things down.)
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Compare that to Windows which has close to around several hundred thousand if not a million viruses for it.
uhm.... your numbers are just a little low there

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No amount of software engineering can fix stupid.

Just sayin'
and thats why i have a t-shirt that says social engineering specialist "because there is no patch for human stupidity" and youd be surprised how many times i got passwords and stuff by just saying "whats your password" ah... low tech hacking <3 (stop staring at my hat... i tripped into a puddle of ink ok!)
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Lot of great info in here. Thanks for the insight. But, I forgot to mention that the network is not an open WIFI network but secured with 802.1x. Does that change anything? From what I understand 802.1x is really secure.
    
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