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Originally Posted by kremtok View Post
If your USB keyboard advertises 'n-key rollover,' then they are misleading you. If that's truly a feature for you, then you need PS/2. I know you have a vendetta against all mechanical keyboards, but perhaps your particular needs lean toward a less expensive, almost disposable keyboard with different features.

To rebut your specific statement, this keyboard does not falsely advertise n-key rollover on USB, nor does it having gaming 'features' that you may expect, such as macros and media keys. Though I agree that to call this keyboard a 'gaming' keyboard is merely a gimmick, I submit that its switches are of superior quality and the option for green backlighting is welcome and refreshing.
There are some N-KRO over USB as I know. The problem is that those keyboards only work on windows, but they do exist. Why would you need such useless feature is something I won't even go into it, as its pointless: we only have a few fingers, and as far as I know we play with 5 on the keyboard and the others on the mouse.


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Browns seem to get the most love, as far as I have seen.
Not that I know. The most common swith in "gaming" keyboards are MX Black: Steelseries 6G, Steelseries 7G and this Mionix itself. Browns, no the other hand, are only present on the Zowie Keyboard (that I know).

I much rather have an Mx brown than a Mx black, I have both and much prefer the first (Noppoo Choc mini and Cherry G80-3000).


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Most people I know use the numpad all the time. You're actually in the minority if you never use it.
Really? Unless you work as an accountant, use excel like hell or something similar, I just don't see why you would need a numpad. For the password of your bank account? Thats all I can think about. Also, If you had to use the numpad a lot I would get a separate one and place it left of the keyboard: so you can use numpad and mouse at the same time, much useful.
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Is it bad that I love my Logitech Wireless MX5000 keyboard and have no issues with it? I do want to someday get a tenkeyless mechanical board. But just can't justify the entry fee.
   
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does anyone really need to hit like 20+ keys at once......?
     
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I'm just saying in most cases you will not run into the keyboard actually wearing out due to the rubber domes. The lifecycle of a rubber dome keyboard is way longer then you will probably even want to keep it.
I've worn them out before. A few of them actually. It's usually just 1 popular key, such as enter, e, etc. Once it stops working then keyboard is then garbage because you cannot replace it.

I'm not going to get into the mechanical vs dome argument with nathris but I will say this. In reality both sides are way over blown. I have not once had to worry about debris getting into one of my switches. It would have to be the most magical debris on the planet to get onto the plate under the keys, and then travel up the stem into the cap, and somehow get inside the switch housing. The likelihood of such an event is ridiculous to even worry about. On the flip side, there are good rubber dome keyboard such as the aforementioned saitek's and sidewinders that quite a solid lifespan and tactility. In the end it's all "to each his own", but I caution preaching either side or else one has likely ventured into fanboism (which is a terrible disease and needs to be eradicated).
    
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I caution preaching either side or else one has likely ventured into fanboism (which is a terrible disease and needs to be eradicated).
With fire, mate, don't forget the fire

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On a more serious note: I do firmly believe that a mechanical keyboard has a much more attractive feeling that a ruber-dome: BUT, we shall not forget that we are talking about feelings here, there is no way to benchmark such spec of the product and, thus, we should accept that some people may prefer a ruber dome over a mechanical keyboard...

...with that said, though, we can't confuse other things: just because somebody actually likes more a ruber dome than a mechanical swtich it doesn't mean that ruber domes are better. If we ran a survey I'm sure that 95% of users who have tried both will prefer the mechanical.

Now, as a last paragraph, price: its true the entry fee for a mechanical is expensive but, heck, how much do you pay for a pair of shoes? How much do they last? Keyboards are expensive, but together with mice, they are the tool we use to interact with our computers. Just because a $5 will do doesn't mean we should think a $150 is expensive as hell... we don't apply the same logic for shoes, do we?
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Well measuring activation points and weight required are somewhat of a way to benchmark. Everyone likes a different feel and you can use these factors to determine what switch would be most suitable to you.

I am currently testing my friends by giving them a mechanical keyboards to borrow for a few months and then seeing what happens when they have to switch back to rubber domes.
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About time I participate in my own thread.

I have owned many mechanical and dome keyboards. With that said, and after years of using both for extended periods of time I tend to enjoy using mechanical over dome. But again, to each their own. Some people like the feel of dome over mechanical and others find it more cost-effective to buy a cheaper "quality" dome every few years then throw down the $$$ on a quality mechanical keyboard. That's perfectly fine I understand.

Furthermore, this keyboard has a pretty high premium when released of about ~$150. In addition, this article is a preview, NOT a review of any sort. It's like looking at a sports car pre-release and not knowing if the manufacturer is gonna skimp and throw a six cylinder inside. Until someone actually tears this thing apart and confirms it's "quality" then I personally won't be touching it... because I'm sure like a lot of us, $150 is a lot to throw down. But if the quality matches the price tag or exceeds it, then I'll most likely put this on my list of possible purchases in the future.
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I don't know anyone who actually needs over 6KRO to be completely honest.
I'm just saying, from the apparent features, $150 is way too high comparatively.
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I'm just saying, from the apparent features, $150 is way too high comparatively.
Like I explained before; it's NKRO but because they want you to use USB only; it's limited to 6KRO.
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Like I explained before; it's NKRO but because they want you to use USB only; it's limited to 6KRO.
Well $9 more gets you the real deal: http://www.deckkeyboards.com/product...products_id=54

I agree the price point could be lower.
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