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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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post #261 of 851
I hate to say it, there are some games that take full advantage of a SSD. EVE Online is one, you end up loading new zones every few minutes. Most MMORG's will take advantage of SSD and in alot of instances will increase performance. That is not to mention the other advantages others have already mentioned... encoding, faster apps/OS, even some cases faster web.

Do you have to have them to run a system no, does it increase performance similar to upgrading CPU, GPU or RAM. It depends on what you do and yes it can.

Saying the technology is too new, ok that is like saying hey DirectX 11 is too new. I wont get a video card that will run it.

Like all technology, it advances and improves with time. For 99% of people that have upgraded to SB, if they were not ready to upgrade and were happier with the older slower technology, why did they upgrade?

The point of the matter is a SATA III 6Gb/s SSD will provide a night and day difference from even a RAID 0 with 10 Raptors.
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buy 2 fast hdd's and shortstroke them...job done.
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Because RAID0 is far more fun!!!
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post #264 of 851
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The most stupid thing is that people defend buying a 2600K over a 2500K, Or an expensive motherboard with extra features they will never use, over a cheaper motherboard that overclocks just as well and have the features they need. Even though their just gaming and regular use, but don't find a reason why an SSD is worth it???! Come on!
not arguing that...
I have post my argument, no response....

How exactly would a SSD make my old C2Q system faster at doing a 6 pass CCE encode than my i7 without SSD???

Cant seem to find the logic on a C2Q being faster than a HT i7 in multithreaded apps in windows because of a SSD.....

Your post has merit, but only in certain situations, not all.....

IMO this is just another one of your anti i7 threads trying to justify your 775 system... Its getting rather strange to be perfectly honest...
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post #265 of 851
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Fair enough. But just be honest about why it's not worth it. SSD IS a performance boost, end of. If you don't have the money to buy one or feel it doesn't offer big enough of a boost for the money, anyone should be able to understand you.

I think the OP is mainly directing his comments at people who spend loads on building expensive systems and missed out SSD. In those cases, you have to wonder how they calculate price v performance ratio.
I've been very honest about why it's not worth it.

I can wait the extra half a second it takes for a song to load, or FF to bring up youtube. Saving that half second isn't worth 120 dollars+ to me, and it's not to many. (as you can see with this thread)

It's a frivolous expense for many. I've spent enough on this system already, without adding a pointless (for me) 100 dollar SSD.
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post #266 of 851
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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post
buy 2 fast hdd's and shortstroke them...job done.
Still 40 times slower than a SSD in random reads and writes.
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Originally Posted by bratas View Post
I hate to say it, there are some games that take full advantage of a SSD. EVE Online is one, you end up loading new zones every few minutes. Most MMORG's will take advantage of SSD and in alot of instances will increase performance. That is not to mention the other advantages others have already mentioned... encoding, faster apps/OS, even some cases faster web.

Do you have to have them to run a system no, does it increase performance similar to upgrading CPU, GPU or RAM. It depends on what you do and yes it can.

Saying the technology is too new, ok that is like saying hey DirectX 11 is too new. I wont get a video card that will run it.

Like all technology, it advances and improves with time. For 99% of people that have upgraded to SB, if they were not ready to upgrade and were happier with the older slower technology, why did they upgrade?

The point of the matter is a SATA III 6Gb/s SSD will provide a night and day difference from even a RAID 0 with 10 Raptors.
QFT. I use mines for FFXIV and it makes a huge difference. I run all my other games off of HDD and they also run great.
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post #268 of 851
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not arguing that...
I have post my argument, no response....

How exactly would a SSD make my old C2Q system faster at doing a 6 pass CCE encode than my i7 without SSD???

Cant seem to find the logic on a C2Q being faster than a HT i7 in multithreaded apps in windows because of a SSD.....

Your post has merit, but only in certain situations, not all.....

IMO this is just another one of your anti i7 threads trying to justify your 775 system... Its getting rather strange to be perfectly honest...
Then you have missed the whole point.

And I'm not anti anything. I've actually been considering buying a 2500K system. But I just don't see the need for it. I can play all my games and my two systems are blazing fast since I'm using SSD's they are much more snappy for most regular use VS your i7.

But each to his own. I will not argue with you more. You've obviously not tried a SSD.
    
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post #269 of 851
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It's a frivolous expense for many. I've spent enough on this system already, without adding a pointless (for me) 100 dollar SSD.
Which is why you are missing the whole point of the topic...

SB is a frivolous expense for so many - they still bought it.

Top end GPUs are a frivolous expense for so many - they still bought it.

8GB RAM plus is a frivolous expense for so many - they still bought it.

Many TB of storage space and multiple drives running in raid is a frivolous expense for many (especially those who don't use the extra space) - they still bought it.

The OP is asking those kind of people, why did you not get SSD? It's pretty simple.
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Excactly! Very true! I've upgraded old computers for regular people claiming their computers was slow. And it was due to their old harddrives.

After I upgraded to SSD's they were shocked at how fast their computers got!
Good job scamming those people into getting an expensive drive they more than likely did not need. If their computer just became slow over time, I'm sure it was just a bunch of crap on the drive and just needed a format. But I guess with an SSD, if they end up with that crap on it again later on, it will run faster.

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The most stupid thing is that people defend buying a 2600K over a 2500K, Or an expensive motherboard with extra features they will never use, over a cheaper motherboard that overclocks just as well and have the features they need. Even though their just gaming and regular use, but don't find a reason why an SSD is worth it???! Come on!
Really, what does it matter what people get to you? I'm not saying SSD's are bad....it will more than likely be my next purchase sometime soon here. But when I was building my PC, the HDD was the last thing on my mind of what to get. Some people already have HDD's laying around or from an old system that they can use and just want to get the new system operational and then maybe worry about things like the drives later. It's less initial money that people need to spend on a new system. Yes, they can get cheaper parts to make up the cost, but why should they have to? Why do people buy Intel Extreme CPU's that are so expensive? Because they can.

Plus, other than saying it is "night and day" and its so fast, you have not really proven anything yourself about the benefits. I know there are benefits, but you have not given anyone proof or accepted the fact that some of the reasons given for not having an SSD are valid. Some other members here have given some facts, but you have not.

Like I said, I will be getting an SSD fairly soon, but it was definitely not something I really worried about when building my PC.

EDIT: When I do get an SSD, it will not be for games. I got too many installed now and will still be on a HDD. Not gonna keep uninstalling/downloading/reinstalling games constantly when I want to play them on a SSD. I play quite a few games regularly that I just can't keep removing games to make room for others all the time.
Edited by jbobb - 4/20/11 at 8:23am
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