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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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post #361 of 851
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Originally Posted by Chuckclc;13202790 
Well I guess you have to have a SB to feel the bottleneck, cuz I never had a bottleneck with my hard drive. Also I keep hearing of SSD degradation over just a year or 2 of owning. Thats scary. I have a 6 year old Raptor drive thats still as fast as the day I bought it. I cant imagine the disappointment of buying a speedy SSD drive only to see the performance decrease 20-30% in a short period of time. Not for the price per gigabyte.

while a game is loading and you see the loading bar creeping upto 100% THATS a bottleneck, The loading bar does not exist with an ssd
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post #362 of 851
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Completely disagree, For me i run fsx which simply without an ssd texture loading spoils the whole game whilst in flight the world infront of you is loading and flickering the whole time. with an ssd it is smooth as silk.

Not all games benefit from an ssd but some do. without an ssd my rig may aswell have a q6600 stock it would feel as slow as my old rig even though i have a 2500k when i added the ssd it transformed my pc completely, 5 times more so than going from a 8800 gtx to a gtx 480 soc, in terms of NOTICABLE speed gains
This is some of the things SSD's is about. And these are the things many of us experience. People who have not tried them just keeps ignoring the facts and stick to their last big bottleneck - The harddrive
    
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post #363 of 851
While we are on the topic, can someone suggest a good 64 - 80GB SSD in the $130 or less price range?

Probably wont get one til next week, but would like to know
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post #364 of 851
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Your computer is only as fast as your harddrive feeding data to the memory.
HDD's are a bottleneck, they're just a bottleneck we're so used to having we don't realize its there most of the time.
And wether or not that's relevant depends entirely on how you use your memory. If you load up 10.5 gigs to your ram, and your proc. churns away at 100% on all threads for 20 hours using that 10.5 gigs of data, your drives contribution to "speed" accounts for almost nothing in the big picture.

Like I've said time and time again, it just depends what you're doing. Not every computer in the world is built to play games.
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post #365 of 851
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She does complain but she's the type to run off killing stuff too. I'm the one usually steering her in the right direction to finish the quest.

The point was, which you seemed to miss by focusing on my instance example, that I spend more time playing and less time waiting for loads. In LoTRO there are instances which you do by yourself. Not all of them require parties, and yes, if you are high level you can finish off some low level 'Storyline' instances
by yourself.

Try not to focus on the example too much, it was merely an example... one of many that I wasn't going to waste my time explaining but ended up doing anyway....
I apologize if I had offended you I was only using what was presented to me to construct an analyzed response to your comment.

Enjoy simply put SSD does speed up load times which will in turn allow you to perform more gaming action...unless of course your one of THOSE ppl who only enjoy multiplayer and must now wait on others... (I do not consider you one of THOSE people friend you enjoy the MMO alone and in groups)
post #366 of 851
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I have 22 games in my Steam library and perhaps 1 or 2 I haven't added. Yes, I install most of my games because I play a lot of different games and it sucks when I have to download Steam games to play because I can't play MP while downloading. Also, StarCraft 2 takes up like 9 GiB.

Installing StarCraft 2 and updating it takes about 2 hours, not something I'd want to do the day I feel like playing it. Same with BC2 and COH. COH could be done faster on an SSD if you have the patches lying around, but you wouldn't want to have them on the SSD, so that's a moot point.
I am only on post 88 of catching up on this thread but you wouldn't have to uninstall the game from your SSD if you aren't using the game at the time. You can simply move it to your HDD. See THIS thread.
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post #367 of 851
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Well, me and many others feel our systems is much much faster compared to harddrives, when using proper SSD's.

And as I've said, a few weeks ago I installed Win7 on a Raptor 74GB 10 000rpm for som testing. My oh my was it slow compared to my SSD's. Everything was just slooow..

Maybe you've got some bad SSD's or something wrong with your setup?
nah its fast but its not £200 fast. 500mb read 530 write on my raid
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Completely disagree, For me i run fsx which simply without an ssd texture loading spoils the whole game whilst in flight the world infront of you is loading and flickering the whole time. with an ssd it is smooth as silk.

Not all games benefit from an ssd but some do. without an ssd my rig may aswell have a q6600 stock it would feel as slow as my old rig even though i have a 2500k when i added the ssd it transformed my pc completely, 5 times more so than going from a 8800 gtx to a gtx 480 soc, in terms of NOTICABLE speed gains
wouldn't that texture loading be in fact texture rendering
whose time would be decreased by GPU upgrades, not HDD/SSD?

Never heard rendering issues in relation to HDD/SSD
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post #369 of 851
The point of where most SSD will eventually either die out or brick is 3-5 years. Considering the average HDD lifecycle is 3-5 years. Anything beyond that is luck and pushing it. Also I think I would prefer a bricked SSD that is Read Only from complete Data loss/failure.

It is the performance that is goal and SB makes the most of the SSD now. Once Z68 boards come out with SSD caching it may increase performance even more. If you need massive storage yes you will need a HDD unless you have Thousands to throw at SSD, which wouldn't make since.
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post #370 of 851
SSD's are a huge improvement to the system itself in terms of snappiness. But I agree, some people just don't care about boot times. As long as the games run better, then they are happy.

For me, I won't go back to mechanical for OS. For my laptop when I am at school I really like having my computer booting fast for labs or presentations. Not to mention that applications load fast. For me, when I am busy and doing work I don't want to wait for my laptop. It is really convenient.
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