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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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    Yes!!!
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    No...
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post #421 of 851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tralala View Post
I can lump the games that see minimum benefit for dollar
spent from an SSD upgrade into one category into a category...

99% of them

and the others that would see some more marginal benefit for
dollar spent into another category.... (like what? you can be in WoW
instances before anybody else and wait for everyone anyways?)
Here is another side of the coin...You could load up the launcher, verify the install of wow, install the already downloaded patches, and then login and load into your major city...minutes before someone on a HDD rig...Then spend that time doing upkeep.

Or you could spend that extra time grabbing tons of mobs and ninja rolling on artifacts and then leave group...LEEEE...no I won't go there
post #422 of 851
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
It's all about balancing a system. And today, in 2011 a gaming/enthusiast computer using a harddrive for OS/Progs/games is no way in hell what I would call a well balanced system
Not everybody has an infinite amount of money to spend on computer stuff....
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post #423 of 851
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Originally Posted by Mike-IRL View Post
Well excuse me for not running a tape drive as my OS boot drive
So by your logic I can go find the world's worst SSD and a good HDD and if the HDD wins it's the better choice. I would literally have to go out of my way to find a normal HDD crap enough to bottleneck my internet speed...
Believe me, the worlds worst SSD will win over the worlds best HDD any day. They are two different beasts and cannot be compared.
    
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post #424 of 851
From semi interesting to shining up the lures, from a fishing technique, to fairytale creatures that live under bridges, to streaming my movies from my 2tb setup to not needing solid state to do it, from what we know is fast, to you are crippling your system ignoring it, to cats and dogs living together mass hysteria, to an already fast system making it faster for a premium, to rendering game images is handled by a drive, from benchmarking compared to real world usage, from booting once a week to booting apparently every 30 minutes, to sata controllers bandwidth having not even been mentioned what so ever, to corn syrup being called sugar, and to all the human resources around the wold, In the morning! Not that I'm jealous or anything, but how you getting so much rep from this troll thread lol?
Edited by Fletcherea - 4/20/11 at 1:04pm
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post #425 of 851
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Originally Posted by Aparition View Post
A decent RAID 0 achieves the same thing. So just anything beyond a single HDD is beneficial to loading times.

So I guess if you have $$ amount and care/want File Space amount can help decide to either do a Raid or go SSD.
RAID 0 is an outdated technology for people who do not mind losing all of their data when 1 drive fails.

And no, it doesn't not achieve even remotely the same thing. Faster, way less heat output, less power consumption, less space used, higher dependability.

To even suggest that an SSD is the same as RAID0 just makes you look pretty noobish.
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post #426 of 851
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
Believe me, the worlds worst SSD will win over the worlds best HDD any day. They are two different beasts and cannot be compared.
Way to dodge the point.

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Originally Posted by Fletcherea View Post
From semi interesting to shining up the lures, from a fishing technique, to fairytale creatures that live under bridges, to streaming my movies from my 2tb setup to not needing solid state to do it, from what we know is fast, to you are crippling your system ignoring it, to cats and dogs living together mass hysteria, to an already fast system making it faster for a premium, to rendering game images is handled by a drive, from benchmarking compared to real world usage, from booting once a week to booting apparently every 30 minutes, to sata controllers bandwidth having not even been mentioned what so ever, to corn syrup being called sugar, and to all the human resources around the wold, In the morning!
Excellent summary
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post #427 of 851
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Originally Posted by Tralala View Post
I can lump the games that see minimum benefit for dollar
spent from an SSD upgrade into one category into a category...

99% of them

and the others that would see some more marginal benefit for
dollar spent into another category.... (like what? you can be in WoW
instances before anybody else and wait for everyone anyways?)
First I don't play WoW (mainly because there isn't enough PVP). Now that you are on the topic of MMO's. Any MMO that is massive PVP based has different zones, systems, maps. All of those zones, systems, maps are stored on the HDD/SSD. Loading a those as either trying to engage the enemy or make tactical retreats is where you see the major benefits of the SSD.
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Here is another side of the coin...You could load up the launcher, verify the Install of wow, install the already downloaded patches, and then login and load into yor major city...minutes before someone on a HDD rig...
My argument isn't that there is NO BENEFIT to having an SSD

My argument is that the price for performance still isn't at a reasonable level yet vs every other upgrade available, and that an SSD should be a last priority

To actually have a few games (WOW included) + OS would costs a few hundred bux minimum to get an SSD that large. The benefit is a few minutes less loading time. Vs. every other upgrade (and time spent enjoying it) it doesn't even come close in value.

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post #429 of 851
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Believe me, the worlds worst SSD will win over the worlds best HDD any day. They are two different beasts and cannot be compared.
Just edited my original post. Compact flash card + IDE adapter for said card is technically an SSD as it is solid state memory used as a hard disc. It will also suck, period.
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post #430 of 851
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RAID 0 is an outdated technology...

To even suggest that an SSD is the same as RAID0 just makes you look pretty noobish.
lol Raid 0...WD raptors are hella reliable...YMMV Mine have been in use since 2005 and have never degraded or lost any data due to RAID.

Luck of the Draw? or maybe just Enterprise class drives?

RAID 0 is a great way to increase performance...breaking it down to its simplest 2 drive explanation...

Normally there is only 1 Head in a HDD so only one thing can be read or wrote at that 1 time...Now you have 2 Heads...They can write 2 Different things at the exact same time...How is that outdated...Hell it's almost a timeless technology...

10 Disks writing/Reading at the same time...win/win

If you are worried about failure...RAID 5/10

Still a performance boost and redundancy

If you are storing stuff you cannot lose on a HDD in RAID 0 your a complete retard.
Edited by NitroNarcosis - 4/20/11 at 10:48am
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