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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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    Yes!!!
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post #441 of 851
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
You're missing the point. An SSD will give you a whole new computer experience. And the point is you buy a small SSD, 80GB will do for OS, Progz and many installed games, and you use Harddrives for other storage.

A 80GB SSD is not that expensive when you consider the experience you get out of it and how much money people spend on the rest of their systems.
honestly, i put my whole system for sale, and i dont get some money out of it so i can support my newsetup with SSD, i will still be goin for cheaper and second hand options....
but thats just me...
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post #442 of 851
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Originally Posted by Mike-IRL View Post
It's not retarded, I'm pointing out that generalising by saying SSDs are better than HDDs doesn't make sense as most people upgrading to SSDs are coming from ancient and terrible HDDs anyway. Also that was in response to him saying ANY SSD will beat the best HDD available and it won't.
Believe me, even the most modern harddrives cannot under any circuimstances be compared to a SSD.

As I've said, I installed Windows in a Raptor 74GB 10 000rpm a few weeks ago, for testing purposes, and my God was it slow compared to my SSD's!

And even the best and fastest harddrives today, doesn't even begin to come close to a SSD. Two totally different technologies that cannot really be compared!
    
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post #443 of 851
I made a point to get the largest ssd that would fit into my budget. Its really a fantastic upgrade from a spindle Hdd, but even though the hdd is a bottleneck if your playing games it isnt such a big deal.

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post #444 of 851
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
You're missing the point. An SSD will give you a whole new computer experience. And the point is you buy a small SSD, 80GB will do for OS, Progz and many installed games, and you use Harddrives for other storage.

A 80GB SSD is not that expensive when you consider the experience you get out of it and how much money people spend on the rest of their systems.
Hard to consider that experience when you've never experienced it. I want SSDs but I also want Sandybridge. The SSD might be one of the last things I put in the case.
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post #445 of 851
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lol Raid 0...WD raptors are hella reliable...YMMV Mine have been in use since 2005 and have never degraded or lost any data due to RAID.

Luck of the Draw? or maybe just Enterprise class drives?

RAID 0 is a great way to increase performance...breaking it down to its simplest 2 drive explanation...

Normally there is only 1 Head in a HDD so only one thing can be read or wrote at that 1 time...Now you have 2 Heads...They can write 2 Different things at the exact same time...How is that outdated...Hell it's almost a timeless technology...

10 Disks writing/Reading at the same time...win/win

If you are worried about failure...RAID 5/10

Still a performance boost and redundancy

If you are storing stuff you cannot lose on a HDD in RAID 0 your a complete retard.
You have been using your rapotors going on 6 years now, the life expectancy is only 5 years. Which is why WD puts a 5 year warranty on them.

Even 10 Disks in a RAID 0 doesn't outperform the latest SSD's.
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post #446 of 851
Why do people keep bring back this concept that the SSD is too small...Its for a Boot drive and small apps. Why do you insist on putting everything on one drive?..If you lose the drive you lose it all...

I know that this is an ignorant rant...but hell it's basically the entire argument for the other side...

They say we no want SSD cuz its small when you could buy a bigger HDD...but it won't be faster

That is the point the OP is trying to make!

Raptors MTBF is very high I do not leave my computer on 24/7, but I have really used them for 6 years worth of gaming...My wife has two in her Dell from the same year as well...still no issues.

We are having a pretty good run...doesn't mean I do not back up her Work data to a larger and newer HDD once a day
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post #447 of 851
I like SSD and I bought them for boot drive. The experience is really night and day compare to a conventional hard drive. I also have the velociraptors 10k RPM running @ RAID 5 and this I can tell you - 1 SSD beats those suckers black and blue in performance.

Most gamers really need SSD for exceptional load times as far as I know. If you can't afford to buy an SSD, it's alright. I'm sure time will come you will going to buy one.

It's inevitable.
post #448 of 851
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Originally Posted by Erper View Post
no offense to everyone but id stick with HDDs over SSD...
even SSD is faster, id rather to have more storage than speed but thats just me...
i believe that in near future those SSDs will be replaces with something even faster, so current SSDs will finish like old ones (forgot the name, the ide ones) that run on 10k speed
Ignorance is bliss. When you do finally go to one, you will look back on this post and SSDs aren't about storage, they are about speed.

Perhaps you you don't really care about speed. of course it's your machine, you can sit there waiting for it to read from the disk all day if you want.
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post #449 of 851
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I was talking about being one of the first people to load into a game, as you said in your previous post...
It does achieve the same thing if all you want to do is load faster maps in a game.
From benchmarks as of about 2-3-ish years ago, map load times are almost entirely dependent on CPU speed, as the game data is stored in compressed files. The main bottleneck in loading a map for a game is in the decompression of the files by the CPU, not reading them from disk.
    
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I can see the point of having an SSD for my boot drive (gets me to the pron faster), but as storage I don't see it.
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