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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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post #671 of 851
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Or just let it die.
That would actually make sense though.
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This reminds me of the first C2Q 4GHz VS Sandy 4GHz for gaming in the resolution we play at thread. People just started flaming the whole thread. Totally ridiculous.

Me and donrapello had to take matters in our own hands. And we started a comparison thread. When he bought his 2500K setup we finally got the comparison up and running...
    
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I priced out a system the other day that Id like to have by the time BF3, skyrim, ME3, etc etc come out, and tried to justify an SSD or three (In raid, of course! ) but most motherboards dont have 3x SATA III ports on one raid controller, so I was left with the choice of buying either one, or two drives. Typically Im using around 150-200gb, and to get that capacity, a 240gb drive would fit the bill (this is just OS and programs) which would cost around $540 for a high performance SSD. As for two drives, I dont want to limit myself to 240gb for the next 4-5 years, so Id need two 240gb drives, which is going to be over a thousand in just drives. Thats way too expensive... At least the prices for these drives is dropping, maybe in six months or so the price will be reasonable.
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Ok but think about it like this,SSDs are expensive,for less storage,but More speed,but loading speed in a game isn't long at all,a minute tops in most cases,so why pay so much,for such little storage,to have your computer boot 30 seconds faster and your games load faster,when it's all about the Fps,a better CPU WILL bring more Fps.a SSD will not.that's all I have to say,I'll be back later to convince you that SSDs are an extra,for after you have a system you like,and still have money left for one.
SSD isn't for storage...it's for your OS

for the record the argument is whether or not SSDs are worth the upgrade over Sandy Bridge

80GB Intel or Vertex2 SSD ~$200 + 1TB Samsung F3 ~$65 = ~$265

vs

2500K ~$230 + Mobo ~$150 if not more = ~$380+

even cheaper if you already use mechanical drives and JUST upgrade SSD for your OS. Also 80GB is being generous as 60GB is sufficient for most people.

I also gave courtesy and didn't pick the 2600K which is the more expensive option

now like i said earlier, unless you're coming from a Core 2 Duo, if you have a quad and are looking to upgrade...CLEARLY getting a SSD is the CHEAPER more noticeable upgrade second to a new video card
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This reminds me of the first C2Q 4GHz VS Sandy 4GHz for gaming in the resolution we play at thread. People just started flaming the whole thread. Totally ridiculous.
Yeah or your:

i7 vs C2Q vs PhII vs C2d
or your
i7 vs C2Q high res gaming
or your
DDR2 800 vs DDR3 1333

Im wondering what thread we can look foreward to next where we can all see how your 775 system is better than i7

LOL
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post #676 of 851
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Yeah or your:

i7 vs C2Q vs PhII vs C2d
or your
i7 vs C2Q high res gaming
or your
DDR2 800 vs DDR3 1333

Im wondering what thread we can look foreward to next where we can all see how your 775 system is better than i7

LOL
Lol! This is not what it's about. I have the money for a Sandy setup. I just don't need it.

And talking about this, clearly my threads has shown there was little differences in gaming
    
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SSD isn't for storage...it's for your OS

for the record the argument is whether or not SSDs are worth the upgrade over Sandy Bridge

80GB Intel or Vertex2 SSD ~$200 + 1TB Samsung F3 ~$65 = ~$265

vs

2500K ~$230 + Mobo ~$150 if not more = ~$380+

even cheaper if you already use mechanical drives and JUST upgrade SSD for your OS. Also 80GB is being generous as 60GB is sufficient for most people.

I also gave courtesy and didn't pick the 2600K which is the more expensive option

now like i said earlier, unless you're coming from a Core 2 Duo, if you have a quad and are looking to upgrade...CLEARLY getting a SSD is the CHEAPER more noticeable upgrade second to a new video card
I will post this in the first page. It was very nice info for the blind-folded people
    
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Hi Everyone. I'm new- and old. I'm just getting started. My question is about massive programs, like EWQL Hollywood Strings and other music soft synth programs. It would be easy to go into the hundreds of gigs with these programs. If you get a smaller SSD, 128 gig or less, and put the OS on that, can you load these other programs on a separate Hard Drive? I have 2- 2TB HD in Raid 1. I got a free 30 gig SSD but refuse to put anything on it. It's just too small.

If all programs need to be on the SSD, it's just too small for my needs.
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Hi Everyone. I'm new- and old. I'm just getting started. My question is about massive programs, like EWQL Hollywood Strings and other music soft synth programs. It would be easy to go into the hundreds of gigs with these programs. If you get a smaller SSD, 128 gig or less, and put the OS on that, can you load these other programs on a separate Hard Drive? I have 2- 2TB HD in Raid 1. I got a free 30 gig SSD but refuse to put anything on it. It's just too small.

If all programs need to be on the SSD, it's just too small for my needs.
Welcome to OCN. Yes, you can install other programs to a different hard drive then the OS is installed to.

So you can have your OS on a smaller SSD, and then install the larger programs to your RAID.
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Wow, 68 pages in eleven hours. Needless to say, I didn't read every last post, but the first about fifteen pages.

From the original post, I gathered this.

You can't have a good CPU if you don't have an SSD.

Rubbish. It's called different priorities. Just because you have a Sandy Bridge CPU, doesn't mean you need this, that, and the other. Just because I can afford a Sandy Bridge CPU doesn't mean you need and can afford very high end GPUs (sometimes multiple ones), gobs of RAM, expensive monitor (or multiple ones), expensive speakers and sound cards, and SSDs. Give me a break.

There's this thing called money which ultimately dictates our limits. Yeah, SSDs are fast, but alot of us are simply holding out and waiting for more, because to alot of us, they don't offer what the price demands, and there's nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with an SSD offering you alot and knocking you on your feet. We don't all jump the gun the second something better is available.
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Are you aware that many games can stutter due to harddrive loading? Whilst they do not with an SSD. What's the point of having a great CPU and graphics card if the game stutters due to harddrive loading?
My hard drive doesn't cause me stuttering in my gameplay, and I hardly have the speediest mechanical drive.

The smoother Windows experience isn't worth the money to me right now (I am still slightly considering it, however, but it's at the bottom of the list of priorities). A better CPU, however, is.

Most of what's on my C:/ drive, besides Windows and programs, are my Steam games. I keep them all installed. I can't be hassled downloading and installing them all of the time. Why should I when I have the space to fill them? As a result, I'd require alot of space from an SSD before it starts replacing my mechanical drives. An SSD wouldn't hold my Steam games (A couple hundred GBs, plus more for headroom) unless I get something more expensive than is worth it.

So, why jump on an unnecessary purchase now, when I am fine with what I have now, and the offerings of SSDs will only grow for me if I wait? Your logic is trying to group everyone where everyone doesn't fit. Yes, SSDs are faster, but at the end of the day, there is a WHOLE LOT more to it than that that you're failing to take into equation. In MY case, an SSD isn't worth it yet. Later, it may be, and I'm anticipating that day.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 4/20/11 at 4:57pm
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