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Poll Results: Should a enthusiast system in 2011 consist of a SSD amongst the other great hardware?

 
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
SSD's is really not about storage capacity. As I've said, even 80GB is enough for OS, installed appz and games. And that's what matter, that's what you need the speed for. Rest you store in harddrives.

exactly what i have setup right now...but i didnt give os enough space tbo :\\
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SSD's is really not about storage capacity. As I've said, even 80GB is enough for OS, installed appz and games. And that's what matter, that's what you need the speed for. Rest you store in harddrives.
Please read my post above. Not everyone can afford both SSD and HDD. Nor do they place value in the benefits an SSD offers over other components.
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Yes they require similar things, but they're completely different workloads.

With transcoding, the PC reads from an already compressed source file and writes to a new, also compressed file. For example, from 1080p h.264 to 720p MPEG4. The computer reads a chunk of the compressed file, uncompresses it in memory, recompresses it, and then writes it to disk. And it keeps on going until the entire file has been read.

With video editing you're working with uncompressed data (or with lossless compression, which still results in a much higher bitrate). A 1080p movie that normally takes up 8GB when compressed with h.264 would end up taking almost 1TB when uncompressed - most single hard drives won't even be able to keep up with the playback rate. So when you're doing editing, the only thing you should be even considering is a RAID array with extremely high sequential speeds (SSD or HDD doesn't matter), otherwise you'll always be bottlenecked at the storage.
Exactly.
And that's why ssd's don't help at all for transcoding videos.
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SSD's is really not about storage capacity. As I've said, even 80GB is enough for OS, installed appz and games. And that's what matter, that's what you need the speed for. Rest you store in harddrives.
That is what I do. I have a 120GB hard drive, but I treat it like a smaller partition on a large hard drive. Install only windows, office, photoshop, apps, some games, etc. Then I put everything else on mechanical hard drives.

Some people buy 1TB hard drives, RAID0 them, short stroke them down to 120GB, and they still end up slower than SSDs (other than sequential transfers).
post #86 of 851
Im going to have to agree with turrican9 on this one.

We are OCN. We overclock, push limits, and find boundaries that havent been found yet.

You are right here turrican9. people spend $600 plus on motherboard/cpu sets and cut out ssd.

Using the excuse that they aren't "safe" or that the price per gig is too high is a cop out. You can get a 60gig ssd for $100 now a days and get great performance enhancements. Its not just about boot times, but about how snappy the system responds. you spend an extra $100 on better ram. Why not get 1333 instead of the 1600 or 1800 or 2000. but you do.

You start in on how he's wrong, about how price is an issue.

Own one. Go out and buy one and see. It took me a while to finally break down and get one myself and it was "THE BEST BUY I EVEN MADE" Computer technology has come a long way. regular hard drives are equal to CRT monitors. while it may still work great, and produce, your missing out on the benefits you havent even experienced yet.
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Exactly.
And that's why ssd's don't help at all for transcoding videos.
Except yes, they do, because you always need at least two HDDs if you want to go that route, and you ALWAYS have to make sure both the source and destination are 100% sequential or yes you do end up getting bottlenecked.

So it's Time taken for defrag + time taken for transcoding + price of two HDDs

or

time taken for transcoding + price of one SSD
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Do you have 20 games installed at the same time? I install the games I play..
I have 22 games in my Steam library and perhaps 1 or 2 I haven't added. Yes, I install most of my games because I play a lot of different games and it sucks when I have to download Steam games to play because I can't play MP while downloading. Also, StarCraft 2 takes up like 9 GiB.

Installing StarCraft 2 and updating it takes about 2 hours, not something I'd want to do the day I feel like playing it. Same with BC2 and COH. COH could be done faster on an SSD if you have the patches lying around, but you wouldn't want to have them on the SSD, so that's a moot point.
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I'm used to my SSD's now. And have been for a year. And the times I've tried computers with harddrives I get shocked by their sloowness! Everything is just much slower.

Really, after getting used to my SSD's I can't even use computers with harddrives without being sick
    
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Bottom line is a SSD is good for your PC,never mind just for games.I am constantly installing different programs and after grabbing a reman. Corsair F60 for $80 I can tell you it has saved me loads of time every day.You might not think it is a big deal untill you have one.If I have to re-install a program it's no big deal because it literally takes like seconds to load vs a few minutes.That adds up to a big difference,trust me.
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