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post #11 of 95
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intel ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When is bulldozer comin out?=fail
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Intel FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When is bulldozer comin out?=FAIL
No need to be such a fanboy. If Bulldozer turns out to suck you'll get higher prices which means we all lose.

So really what's the point?
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So many fanbois it hurts >.<

This is a cool advancement, and I love seeing chips reach Moore's Law!
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huh?
Higher density is better. Intel's herding cattle through smaller gates (less manpower to close them) but they need to let less cattle wander off. Thus, I'm hoping that their 14nm is better than the 22nm as they aren't making as big of jumps in density as AMD.

Intel 22nm = 1.7
AMD 32nm = 1.4
Intel 32nm = 1.1

(an explanatory representation)
Edited by The-Beast - 4/20/11 at 5:12pm
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Wow. Fanboy alert. We don't want another flame war do we?
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No need to be such a fanboy. If Bulldozer turns out to suck you'll get higher prices which means we all lose.

So really what's the point?
This. Intel doesn't need AMD. The consumer needs AMD. The reason being is balance. Prices, performance, also, the push for Intel to stay ahead. As much as I hate fanboys, we really do have to realize that AMD is good for all of us.
    
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Wow... I'm looking forward to just after the 22nm stuff. I'm interested in 14nm and below

I have a 2600k and I'm so tempted to switch to Ivy Bridge but then I know with that mindset it'll be the next thing and the next thing. So I'm trying to really convince myself in my head that the grass is greener on the other side if I wait 3+ years.

I mean who needs more than a 2600k for gaming and photoshop for a while to come?

This news is nice to hear though. I want my next computer upgrade, whenever it should be, to be amazing. The only downside is I feel like there's no rest for those who love computer hardware... there's no such thing as going "I got my product when advancements slowed down, so it lasted me a long time!".
    
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Higher density is better. Intel's herding cattle through smaller gates (less manpower to close them) but they need to let less cattle wander off. Thus, I'm hoping that their 14nm is better than the 22nm as they aren't making as big of jumps in density as AMD.

Intel 22nm = 1.7
AMD 32nm = 1.4
Intel 32nm = 1.1

(an explanatory representation)
any where that i can read up more on this.


i haven't heard anything like this but i am really curious....
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Higher density is better. Intel's herding cattle through smaller gates (less manpower to close them) but they need to let less cattle wander off. Thus, I'm hoping that their 14nm is better than the 22nm as they aren't making as big of jumps in density as AMD.

Intel 22nm = 1.7
AMD 32nm = 1.4
Intel 32nm = 1.1

(an explanatory representation)
Source?
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The irony of all this is If AMD didn't have Intel just a bit worried with bulldozer, they prolly would not be pushing for this tech.
Further if AMD fails with Bulldozer (I don't think it will), the same fanboys will be looking forward to excessive pricing for new 22nm tech.
Urban smooth is right, Intel would be much happier without AMD, but people like us need the competition for pricing and new tech like this.

This is a simple way of looking at it but, back in the Athlon (june 1999), Athlon 64 days (sept 2003) Intel was having it's butt handed to it by these cheaper and faster AMD CPUs.
Just think if AMD failed back then what we would have today.
We would not have such CPUs as the 1366 i7s, forget about Sandy bridge.
What about LGA775 C2D, nope or what about the P4 HT, nope,
the later P4 HT models stamped the performance edge back in the Intel camp.
What about DDR3?, forget that Intel used this (by early adoption) to gain a bit of performance in the fight with AMD.
The first of the Extreme Edition chips (aka Emergency Edition @ $999) were spawned in this fight, The EE was launched a week before the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX.
Intel was forced to run their R&D budget to the max just to remain in the fight.

CPU dies went from 180nm to 65nm, CPU speeds went from less than 1Ghz to near 4Ghz in less than six years (not counting the crazy italian guys that got 8Ghz on LN using a Cedar mill).
Full speed on die cache and L3 cache were also spawned in this era.

So before the fanboys open their mouths they need to use their heads and not their epeen.

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Edited by Doom - 4/22/11 at 4:49pm
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