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So your saying bulldozer being better won't make Intel pull out all the stops to regain the crown, and should Intel succeed in making a better chip AMD wouldn't be 5+ years behind again since its taken that long to develop BD anyway?

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Agreed. Intel has done this every time. Intel has a huge R&D so they can whip out a better chip in much shorter time than what it takes for AMD to make a chip that can overtake Intel.
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Agreed, Sandy bridge Ks would be another $1000 CPU without AMD making $150 3.2Ghz X4s and $300 3.2Ghz X6s.

Agreed, the architectural cycle of 8 years needs some work for sure.


Agreed, some people have short memories or just don't care.
Well said.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/22/11 at 6:35pm
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i'm pretty sure 11nm is in the works
    
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Quantum computing much?
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Intel 22nm = everybody else 28nm. It has 25nm gates.
Yes they are stealing your nanometers.
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Intel 22nm = everybody else 28nm. It has 25nm gates.
Yes they are stealing your nanometers.
as some1 that is working in a 22nm factory I can tell you that you are terribly misinformed.
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as some1 that is working in a 22nm factory I can tell you that you are terribly misinformed.

and where do you work ??? and can you please tell us where you got your proof that intel isnt doing what he claims they are doing
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as some1 that is working in a 22nm factory I can tell you that you are terribly misinformed.
Would you please explain how it is 22nm if it apparently has 25nm gates ?
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Agreed. Intel has done this every time. Intel has a huge R&D so they can whip out a better chip in much shorter time than what it takes for AMD to make a chip that can overtake Intel.
Yep, Intel only has this budget because of the competition,
this budget is there for the 22nm only because Intel wants/needs to stay ahead of said competion.
I think AMD has done a great job spooking Intel even if Bulldozer is just a match for sandy bridge. The achitecture of bulldozer is quite different to anything out there and it may take a generation before it gets to full maturity.

This looks like its going to be another Finesse vs Brute power battle (Athlon 64 FX vs Pentium 4 EE), with hindsight the pentium had the wood on athlon in the grunt stakes but was held back by a poor chipset platform (netburst).

Bring on bulldozer and bring on 22nm chips.
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Yep, Intel only has this budget because of the competition,
this budget is there for the 22nm only because Intel wants/needs to stay ahead of said competion.
I think AMD has done a great job spooking Intel even if Bulldozer is just a match for sandy bridge. The achitecture of bulldozer is quite different to anything out there and it may take a generation before it gets to full maturity.

This looks like its going to be another Finesse vs Brute power battle (Athlon 64 FX vs Pentium 4 EE), with hindsight the pentium had the wood on athlon in the grunt stakes but was held back by a poor chipset platform (netburst).

Bring on bulldozer and bring on 22nm chips.
Intel has their budget from many other things too.
Die shrinks do not necessarily equate to a faster processor,it just gives Intel a larger profit because there are more useable chips from a 22nm process vs. a 32nm process,which is why SB (Core architecture die shrink) is cheap because they can get more CPUs out of a 32nm manufacturing process than 45nm.
AMD has a good idea when they run into CPUs that aren't up to their spec,disable a few core(s) and sell it as a X2 or X3 chip.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/22/11 at 7:37pm
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Intel has their budget from many other things too.
Die shrinks do not necessarily equate to a faster processor,it just gives Intel a larger profit because there are more useable chips from a 22nm process vs. a 32nm process,which is why SB (Core architecture die shrink) is cheap because they can get more CPUs out of a 32nm manufacturing process than 45nm.
AMD has a good idea when they run into CPUs that aren't up to their spec,disable a few core(s) and sell it as a X2 or X3 chip.
Agreed.
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