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The point of shrinking a chip without changeing the arctecture is this:
1) You don't know how the new process will behave with a new architecture or revison. (See Femi and the leaky 90 nm prescotts, unlike AMD, who tested the 40 nm process with the 4770,)
2) You get more dies per wafer.
3) It allows you to get to know the process well enough to put the new architecture on it.
4) A new architecture is hard enough to work the bugs out on it's own (see the AMD Phenom I with the TLB bug)
 
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And you somehow expect that if intel is say bought out by AMD and if the trade commissions or the Feds even allow such a monopoly, you think AMD won't go out of their way to nickel and dime you or charge every cent they can get?

Phenom III black edition. Single core 1ghz $1000. I can see it now.
Sorry,but what a load of fanboyish crap.
Just look at the HDD manufactures buying up other HDD companies,look at Apple's monopoly and constant suing. No one ever stopped them,and Intel is even bigger.
Look at years of Intel's bullying the OEM's to push their sales,the anti-trust lawsuits that Intel doesn't even seem to care about,the marketing BS,the optimizing code for intel CPU's,etc. If Intel is bought out by AMD,AMD is no longer AMD,so it's really Intel who of course is selling the overpriced product. Intel would buy out AMD,steal their x64 technology and leave the rest of what AMD is to die off. Sure,I know you'd like to see AMD kick the bucket,but not everyone can afford $500-$1,000 CPU's from Intel, which is already a huge monopoly.
What makes you think the Feds would stop Intel when Intel is in with the government itself?
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The point of shrinking a chip without changeing the arctecture is this:
1) You don't know how the new process will behave with a new architecture or revison. (See Femi and the leaky 90 nm prescotts, unlike AMD, who tested the 40 nm process with the 4770,)
2) You get more dies per wafer.
3) It allows you to get to know the process well enough to put the new architecture on it.
4) A new architecture is hard enough to work the bugs out on it's own (see the AMD Phenom I with the TLB bug)
Well said.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/23/11 at 6:07pm
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Intel FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When is bulldozer comin out?=FAIL
what a stupid remark. smaller isnt always better. look at the chips they use for memory. the new smaller process was causing failure in RAM so mushkin said "no where sticking with the old chips"
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what a stupid remark. smaller isnt always better. look at the chips they use for memory. the new smaller process was causing failure in RAM so mushkin said "no where sticking with the old chips"
DID SOMEBODY SAY MUSHKIN!?!
    
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Hell all I hope is lots and lots of competition between amd and intel so I can get myself a fancy chip and not having to sell my house :/
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