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What fun would the Internet be if every one was correct?
Great comment! I find it even more funny when people get upset when people are wrong.
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The modding on consoles kind of scares me. Modding is the only advantage PC gaming has. Graphics can be said to be an advantage, but only if you have the hardware and the game can make use of it. Plus, most of the newer console games look pretty darn good even if you can get slightly better at great expense with a PC. So modding is it...if PC gaming loses that exclusive I don't know how many people will stick with the PC. Certianly there would be far fewer young kids asking their mom to buy them a gaming PC.
Well said again. The gap is closing between PC and consoles because devs are choosing not to go the extra mile since it's not profitable, even the creators of Brink said DX11 is not a cost effective feature at the moment. I can't see how I can justify a $1K+ PC on my desk when I can enjoy the game the same on a $200 XBOX. We can make a case for keyboard and mouse, but it's not worth the hundreds of additional dollars to use it with a PC, devs aren't programming for it like they should anyway, PC games are still shipping with console placeholder commands.

PC gaming will always be the best, but since devs are cutting out features and cost, then I should too.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 4/21/11 at 11:31am
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Ever wonder if modding is causing the official releases to be lower quality? I often think when I am applying a texture mod that the original developer could have done this just as easily. I wonder if Bethsesda is catching on that if they only do half the work then the modders will do the other half...or that even if they do all the work the modders will re-do it anyway.
I'm sure that might play some part in the grand scheme of things, even if developers will never admit to it (nor should they).

The textures and models must also play nice on every platform the game is being designed to run on, so I'm sure that's another key factor into lower textures than what the PC can fully support.

Also, the folks designing and building the game have a ton more on their plate to achieve than a modder who decides to improve some rock textures and works away on that non-stop for a week. At a certain point the game's developer has to look at things, see if they run smoothly across all platforms, call it "good enough," and then move on to the next item on the miles-long checklist.
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I could care less for the graphics I just hope there's not many bugs at the start. It sucks getting to a part in a game only to be blocked from moving on because of a glitch or bug. I also realize that with a game this size there are bound to be some bugs but I just hope they're kept to a minimum.
    
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please enlighten us
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You list 4 things "Nobody knows about" yet you don't shed any light on what "everybody is getting wrong"

lmao
It is not up to him to educate or "enlighten" posters who post without an inkling of what they are talking about. It is their responsibility to educate themselves or risk ridicule.
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wait wait wait, one second...are people actually making negative comments about oblivion? it was and still is one of the best games ever made, bar none. And modding was a big part of the game, but even without modding it surpasses so many other rpgs in playing time, fun and replay value. You people need to stop ******* whining, its gonna be a great game and its gonna look decent enough. do u want them to take time away from gameplay, quests and features to add some dx 11 lighting and footprints that get covered with snow or something? good visuals support a game, not make it. Content over visuals
Oblivion sucked compared to Morrowind, and that's where Oblivion gets its hate.
    
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Oblivion sucked compared to Morrowind, and that's where Oblivion gets its hate.
My biggest beef with Oblivion are the crappy procedurally generated terrains that are essentially all the same.
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It is not up to him to educate or "enlighten" posters who post without an inkling of what they are talking about. It is their responsibility to educate themselves or risk ridicule.
The point was he makes a generic insulting statement with no facts to back it up. You clearly didn't get it.
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The point was he makes a generic insulting statement with no facts to back it up. You clearly didn't get it.
I understood that he made a generic statement with an insulting tone, but it is hardly worse or even close to all the troll statements made by QQ'ing idiots who have no idea what they are talking about. All the points he brought up are valid. Every other post about console porting is completely incorrect and explanations regarding those points have been posted already in the 7 some pages of this thread. It is not up to him to explain each point, it is up to ignorant posters to take note and correct themselves. This is the biggest problem with people today (not only on this forum but with society in general) in that people always want other people to do things for them and are content to sit back and whine about how other people are not doing it for them. He pointed out (whether or not politely) that most of the posters in this thread are just talking out of their asses. It's up to them to figure it out or continued to be ridiculed, trolled, or flamed.
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I think this might be the last game thread I ever look at on OCN lol. It seems as if there has been some sort of Overclock.net Gamers Skeptic Initiative that has been set in stone, and it makes me absolutely sick. Insert game title, copy paste every post from the thread before it with new title. Just figured I'd post some random thing that no one cares about =D Otherwise, I'm excited for my next 100+ hour hibernation single player title =)
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I understood that he made a generic statement with an insulting tone, but it is hardly worse or even close to all the troll statements made by QQ'ing idiots who have no idea what they are talking about. All the points he brought up are valid. Every other post about console porting is completely incorrect and explanations regarding those points have been posted already in the 7 some pages of this thread. It is not up to him to explain each point, it is up to ignorant posters to take note and correct themselves. This is the biggest problem with people today (not only on this forum but with society in general) in that people always want other people to do things for them and are content to sit back and whine about how other people are not doing it for them. He pointed out (whether or not politely) that most of the posters in this thread are just talking out of their asses. It's up to them to figure it out or continued to be ridiculed, trolled, or flamed.
I agree with this guy here.

I wonder how many retarded posts are in this thread, and how good it would be without those posts.

(I bet if we did it for the entire forum, we'd have 1/10th of the posts we have now.)
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