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Well i was overclocking today and Ive got my 980x stable at 4.6 Idle 25 load 62 with a 70F ambient. I want to lower my temps and can if i set my AC to 68F, then my idle drops to 20 and load to 55. My problem is that running the AC that lower is hard on the wallet and during the summer even with the AC going my office will still be 71-72F. So my thought was what if I got a portable AC and somehow rig it to blow 60-65F air into my case. Or would a phasechange setup be better in the long run?
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Phase change seems to be your only option.
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How loud are phase setups? Currently i have a 360 rad with ultra kaze 3000's for my cpu and its loud. With phase I would be able to eliminate them correct? Sorry for all the questions, I;m a newbie when it comes to phase
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I'd invest in NEW GPUs over phase change. 4.6ghz isn't enough for you? For the price of phase you can get surround 24 inch and tri sli GTX580s?
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I'd invest in NEW GPUs over phase change. 4.6ghz isn't enough for you? For the price of phase you can get surround 24 inch and tri sli GTX580s?
That's not what he asked, he asked if he should go phase or OC. He did not ask what he should invest in. Completely off topic.

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How loud are phase setups? Currently i have a 360 rad with ultra kaze 3000's for my cpu and its loud. With phase I would be able to eliminate them correct? Sorry for all the questions, I;m a newbie when it comes to phase
@OP, I have no experience with phase-change, but from what I've seen in other threads and heard in videos, it is quite loud. If noise is a concern, this is perhaps not the best idea.
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I'd invest in NEW GPUs over phase change. 4.6ghz isn't enough for you? For the price of phase you can get surround 24 inch and tri sli GTX580s?
Well I already have a 27inch and surround, and i really dont do to much gaming, the 460 overclocked have been perfect for what I do. Originally 4.6 was my goal, but now that I got it I want to see how far I can go. But mainly i wanna cut down on the fan noise. And phase or a chiller seem to be the only way to do it that i can see
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Well I already have a 27inch and surround, and i really dont do to much gaming, the 460 overclocked have been perfect for what I do. Originally 4.6 was my goal, but now that I got it I want to see how far I can go. But mainly i wanna cut down on the fan noise. And phase or a chiller seem to be the only way to do it that i can see
Just stay on water. 4.6ghz is more than enough. Get more RAD and put lower RPM fans on?
post #8 of 12
Phase change units usually aren't excessively loud. However, they are louder than the typical air/water cooling setup. You mentioned your main goals is to reduce fan noise.

Like SpeedNuggeT said, sometimes the best option is hardware upgrade. You will get better peformance with stock settings and stock coolers.

Another, more extreme, option is a water chiller in a separate room. Your computer will be almost silent (exception of PSU fan and HDDs) and you will be able to achieve higher overclocks. The main drawback is having to modify your house-- you need to be the property owner. If you are interested in this option, let me know and I can give you several ideas on how to trim/finish the holes. Nobody wants the 'I just punched a hole in the wall' look.

Going back to your main question in the OP- "portable AC ... or, phasechange setup". Phase change will emit about the same amount of noise as a portable AC unit. However, the phase change unit will give you much better temperatures and allow for much more overclocking. A water chiller is just a phase change unit connected to a water cooling loops. It will be just as loud as a normal phase change unit. Its main advantages are being able to be placed on the other side of a wall and being able to cool more componets than a standard phase change unit.

In the end, the option you choose will depend on how much you value performance and how much you value silence.
Edited by sparkplug188 - 4/20/11 at 9:25pm
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Phase change units usually aren't excessively loud. However, they are louder than the typical air/water cooling setup. You mentioned your main goals is to reduce fan noise.

Like SpeedNuggeT said, sometimes the best option is hardware upgrade. You will get better peformance with stock settings and stock coolers.

Another, more extreme, option is a water chiller in a separate room. Your computer will be almost silent (exception of PSU fan and HDDs) and you will be able to achieve higher overclocks. The main drawback is having to modify your house-- you need to be the property owner. If you are interested in this option, let me know and I can give you several ideas on how to trim/finish the holes. Nobody wants the 'I just punched a hole in the wall' look.

Going back to your main question in the OP- "portable AC ... or, phasechange setup". Phase change will emit about the same amount of noise as a portable AC unit. However, the phase change unit will give you much better temperatures and allow for much more overclocking. A water chiller is just a phase change unit connected to a water cooling loops. It will be just as loud as a normal phase change unit. Its main advantages are being able to be placed on the other side of a wall and being able to cool more componets than a standard phase change unit.

In the end, the option you choose will depend on how much you value performance and how much you value silence.
Well currently there are a total of 5 ultra kaze 3000 going at full rpm ( two on 240 for gpus and three on360 for CPU, mobo) so it's pretty loud. I played with the fan comtroller and if I turn the 3 on the CPU way down it's not bad. But too get temps down they have to he full. I've tried adding another 240 to the CPU loop but there was only a 2 degree difference. I just couldn't justify the 2nd rad and fans for only 2 deg and having the rad externally mounted. I looked into aquarium chillers but they didnt look like it would be worth the money.
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If you're not looking for a world record run than don't bother with phase.If extreme overclocking is your thing than go ahead,but certainly your cpu isn't lacking.72 max load is perfectly fine.
Edited by djsi38t - 4/20/11 at 9:49pm
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