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Originally Posted by Adasen;13215282 
Ok thank you for your reply mate. After a bit more head scratching I've decided to go with the PNY GTX 570.

Another quick question though if I can before I place the order.

I'm running a E8600, will the 570 or my cpu bottleneck in any way?

4ghz quad will not bottleneck a 570.


a 4ghz wouldn't either in WoW or Rift.

oh yeah, and your rig will SLAY both games. mine laughs at WoW and maxed out rift with ease, and you should be rocking a solid step up.

do yourself and you rig a service and get battlefield 3 when it comes out.
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Originally Posted by civilian_pr0ject;13215382 
4ghz quad will not bottleneck a 570.


a 4ghz wouldn't either in WoW or Rift.

oh yeah, and your rig will SLAY both games. mine laughs at WoW and maxed out rift with ease, and you should be rocking a solid step up.

do yourself and you rig a service and get battlefield 3 when it comes out.

Duel Core but I guess it'll still be fine?

Oh and BF3, Absolutely !! One of my most anticipated games this year. smile.gif
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Duel Core but I guess it'll still be fine?

Oh and BF3, Absolutely !! One of my most anticipated games this year. smile.gif

What resolution do you play at? In the modern game library, your Dual Core will bottleneck the card/performance. Probably by a good amount, but I don't have the exact numbers. Do yourself a favor and upgrade your CPU/Mobo next, either that or change to a weaker card and save the money. I can't see the 570 being maxed out with just a dual core.
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What resolution do you play at? In the modern game library, your Dual Core will bottleneck the card/performance. Probably by a good amount, but I don't have the exact numbers. Do yourself a favor and upgrade your CPU/Mobo next, either that or change to a weaker card and save the money. I can't see the 570 being maxed out with just a dual core.
It depends entirely on the game. If the game makes use of more than two cores, the CPU will bottleneck the game, but in that case, it's the game bottlenecking it, not so much the card. So while you won't see the "full benefit", you need to use the word "bottleneck" in this case with some thought. If you claim a 4GHz Core 2 Quad won't bottleneck it, then neither will a Core 2 Duo at that same speed so long as the game doesn't need more than four cores.

So the OP needs to question that. If you play many games that need alot of cores, you won't get the full benefit, but I wager a platform upgrade is likely the next upgrade anyway (just a guess), so there's NO reason to hold back on the video card intentionally. Just my opinion. Needless to say, it won't perform like a Sandy Bridge, but I wouldn't hold back on purpose now. That's silly.

I have a GeForce GTX 560 Ti paired with my Core 2 Duo E8600 and I am still running my GPU near full use in most, if not all, games I've tried. However, I don't play many (any?) games that need more than two cores, so keep that in mind. So, it depends on the games and your use. That CPU will only bottleneck the game(s), not so much the card itself. That's how it seems to go with CPUs that are fast but lacking in cores.
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Originally Posted by Adasen;13215282 
Ok thank you for your reply mate. After a bit more head scratching I've decided to go with the PNY GTX 570.

Another quick question though if I can before I place the order.

I'm running a E8600, will the 570 or my cpu bottleneck in any way?
I'd say to opt for the GeForce GTX 560 Ti. Since you're considering the SOC version of it, it's awfully close in performance to the GeForce GTX 570.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-review/11

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_560_ti_soc,4.html

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3796/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_560_ti_1gb_soc_video_card/index6.html

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28624&page=3

http://www.techspot.com/review/359-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560ti/page4.html

Were it a more standard GeForce GTX 560 Ti you were considering, and were the GeForce GTX 570 free of the VRM scare, I'd say go for it.

The GeForce GTX 570 is the faster card, no questions.

For the money though, especially when the Gigabyte SOC is so close (sometimes better) and cost so much less, it's been my recommended card to get from nVidia in that price range. You get about the same and save alot, which is a better deal.

Of course, you won't really be going wrong either way.
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I said modern game library for a reason, most/all games coming out will support quad core.
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What was the 4870x2 equivalent to on the green side? I'm horrible with remembering older gen AMD cards. IIRC it's a little slower than the HD 5870 right?

If that's the case, either card would be an upgrade, but probably not the *HUGE* difference you'd be looking for unless the HD 4000 series had X-fire scaling issues or something.

Considering the games you play, the 560 should handle them easily.
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I said modern game library for a reason, most/all games coming out will support quad core.
Sheez, lighten up. I was just clarifying that and based on my own experience.

Since you want to be stern though, my inference of modern would be an average of what the gaming landscape is like now (say, the average of the last two or three or four years), not trends that are forming now or the stuff coming down the pipe now and out tomorrow. The modern landscape is still filled with scores of games that get by with a dual core just fine, so lighten up. There's no need to get upset over it because I wanted to throw that thought out there for the OP. I have the same CPU and one of the video cards he's considering, so I was just trying to help. All I did was further explain and clarify it and you got upset like I stepped on your toes.
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I agree that an 8-series dual-core CPU at 4.33GHz is a totally adequate CPU for either card in question. Although you'll lose a few fps vs. having the same card w/an SB at 5.0GHz in certain scenarios, with very few exceptions it'll never be enough of a BN to see or feel while gaming.

And there's no such thing as game 'needing' a quad-core, really. There's just games that'll 'make use' of more than two if they're present.

I wouldn't hesitate to get either of those cards with that platform to run it on. If you ever want to SLI them, though ... I'd definitely recommend stepping up ...
    
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And there's no such thing as game 'needing' a quad-core, really. There's just games that'll 'make use' of more than two if they're present.

I've heard Quads actually make a very significant difference in online multi-player games. C/D?
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Originally Posted by munaim1;13211271 
Read this http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx560_twinfrozr_2/

Say how would you compare to MSI's 560ti twin fans compared to Single fan EVGA 560Ti?
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