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It's been several weeks since Asus announced that certain socket AM3 motherboards would support AMD's upcoming Bulldozer processors. Since then, we've turned up additional rumors on the nature of such support. MSI has also announced its own plans to retrofit some existing AM3 boards with Bulldozer compatibility. What follows is the general shape of the situation as we currently understand it.

More HERE

P.S. My 02: it's going to be pretty similar with Phenom I / AM2 compatibility: it may work if the BIOS supports it but newer technologies related to power management and different clock domains can't work. As long as you can't power off a pin on the AM3 socket due to some missing core logic, the board can't apply power gating on the Bulldozer CPU mounted on top, right?
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"What Have Asus / AMD Said?
AMD has said only that they don't support Bulldozer on AM3. Past that, the company recommended we talk to Asus. We attempted to talk to Asus, but were told that the company will no longer be talking publicly about AM3/Bulldozer support, at the request of AMD. Thus, Asus was unable to talk to us about the specifics of its own product based on an announcement it had already made."

LOL. There is that nasty little NDA mucking up the works again. Like I have said before, Asus was WAY pre-mature in releasing this information and I bet it pissed AMD off big time. I wonder though how many more CHIV were sold because of it..... lachen.gif
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Yeah well hopefully we don't have a huge amount of PCB meltdowns with people OCing 8 core Bulldozer CPUs to the max on AM3 motherboards that can't handle that amount of heat being generated.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tout;13214445 
Yeah well hopefully we don't have a huge amount of PCB meltdowns with people OCing 8 core Bulldozer CPUs to the max on AM3 motherboards that can't handle that amount of heat being generated.

That could be one issue that people might have to deal with, but what I have said before is the fact that MAYBE, as others have said, that certain features might not/will not work on an AM3 platform, like turbo core speeds, power management, and maybe others not known at this time. I got mega flamed for saying just sit and wait to see what it all means, but the Asus fanboys ran with it and caused a huge mess. Thanks guys! applaud.gifthumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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post #5 of 194
tbh even if i could use bulldozer on an AM3 socket board i wouldnt....upgrade for a motherboard made for it...plus isnt there going to be a 9 series chipset for bulldozer?
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I'm not sure, "IF" it will run on my 790XT, and perform close to a i7 on the 790XT, there is a chance I would just buy it and drop it in. Now knowing me, I would be upgrading the Mobo in the near future anyways, but this would be a one-step easy upgrade that I am sure I would have a hard time passing up.

Until I was bored one weekend and run to Microcenter for a new Mobo
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I only see this good for those that want to do the cpu upgrade now and do the motherboard upgrade couple months down the line. Is the new socket going to be AM3+ for bulldozer?
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post #8 of 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinhDiezel;13214936 
I only see this good for those that want to do the cpu upgrade now and do the motherboard upgrade couple months down the line. Is the new socket going to be AM3+ for bulldozer?

That's the consensus ATM
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post #9 of 194
I think the VRM issue here on OCN is known well enough, I don't think that many people will blow up their boards on the new Bulldozer. Especially with the target TDP now being at 95W for the majority of processors.
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Sooooo..... Is Bulldozer going to work on 790FXT boards like mine? albeit unoffically?
     
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