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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
All I know is that SOMEBODY is either lying or both are telling the truth.

ASRock is a subdivision of ASUS.

You know, THAT company that stated with a BIOS upgrade that 8 to 10 AM3 Boards would run AM3+? All of them less than a year old at the time ASUSTaiwan dropped that golden diamond encrusted gem upon the world?

Might it more LIKELY being that both are right? We know there are FOUR different versions of the FX CPU. All of them under the code name BULLDOZER?

I think that it's funny that people are so convinced that it will never work.

But I ask y'all, would ASUS put their reputation on the line by lying about the ability to run an AM3+ CPU on their current boards? And if so what's to gain from it? It's more likely that people that aren't on an AM3 board are going to buy an AM3+ board regardless of how entry level it is. There is only one AM3+ board at this time. Hell compare it to the bottom end of the BIOS upgrade, the M4A89GTD Pro, if you've got issues with Formula cause I run it and refer to it. Apologies if it rubs people the wrong way. It's not about you and it's not about me. It's about US and whether or not somebody is lying. I seriously doubt that anyone is lying.

But what Enthusiast Board had ASRock made in the last year? They stand to lose money if they don't advertise the benefits of going to AM3+. It's called ADVERTISING, anyone who ever worked in a store can tell people this.

I say EVERYBODY is right in this little dog and pony show.

AMD says they don't support Bulldozer being run on AM3 due to the loss of "features".

ASUS, Gigabyte AND MSi all say that with a BIOS upgrade certain AM3 Boards will run AM3+ CPUs'.

And now ASRock stirs the pot with this Advertisement.

It's up to the consumer as to what they want at this point. If you're holding the Golden Ticket, do you give it up because you promised the candy bar to the neighbor kid not realizing you've given away your shot at immortality? Or do you do so because you can afford more of them giving you better access to it?

Me? I'm a stingy Bish and I'm gonna wring every last cent out of the Golden Ticket I'm holding in my grubby little paws.

~Ceadder
Whoa calm down-- that was a crazy post.

I think everybody here believes it WILL run. My issue is how well it will run... and I think the ASRock information sheds some light on that point. They are just giving us a more concrete idea of what these mysterious lost "features" are going to be. The ASRock release may be advertising, but false advertising is a crime.
post #112 of 194
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

I think that it's funny that people are so convinced that it will never work.
Who's convinced it will never work?

There was some original aprehension about pin counts, but that was resolved. No one is saying an AM3+ FX cpu won't work in an AM3 board, they're saying it won't work to it's fullest ability, which may or may not include features that are important to you such as increased stability and voltage supply, both of which would surely affect overclocking. You may find a Bulldozer will overclock substantially higher in an AM3+ board than on an AM3... maybe even 32% higher?





If you only want An FX cpu to run at stock in your CHIV then fine.

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well i won't have to worry about all this am3+ jazz, cause i ordered the Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H from amazon, and to my surprise it was the new revision 3.1 boards with the black socket!

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Yep. As a consumer I will be going the 990FX route to make sure my Bulldozer CPU works to the fullest it can without messing with bios gimmicks and have full platform support. If ASRock and Asus have issues or are lying/misleading consumers about this AM3 socket issue then as a consumer I want nothing to do with it, as I want the product I buy to work. On topic.
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Well,it looks legit,but then again it might be photoshopped.
I'm curious as to what exactly the WEI rating of 5.0 is,integrated 6xxx graphics?
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/23/11 at 7:15am
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Well,it looks legit,but then again it might be photoshopped.
I'm curious as to what exactly the WEI rating of 5.0 is,integrated 6xxx graphics?
Screen shot is most likely of a server platform so discrete gpu.
Upcoming BD will have no APU.
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Does anyone think Asus won't release AM3+ boards?

Or are they simply keeping customers, both current user's and to get shot of their current backlog of boards, who might otherwise go to the oposition or indeed buy SB.

If and when they release "real" AM3+ boards, it will be interesting to see how they market them, since they will have to convince current AM3 owners, who used a Bios update, that buying a new board is indeed a better option.

In other words, at some point they will have to say that using AM3+ cpu's on AM3 sockets is limiting user experience.
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Does anyone think Asus won't release AM3+ boards?
I would think they would have to, but they are losing market big time right now. People want Bulldozer, AM3+ or not, so AMD should just come out and give us the real goods. I'd buy Bulldozer if they actually bring out the real Bulldozer, not that "FX" garbage - but the lack of actual AM3+ boards is a real problem, so if real Bulldozer can't run on AM3 boards, boards which can be purchased - it will end up being a deal breaker for a lot of people.
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Edited by SlaveOnDope - 4/23/11 at 9:36am
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