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Actually, P55/1156 stuff was released on Chinese Retail shelves like 2 weeks early.
Hmm, interesting... and not all that far from Japan. If BD shows up early maybe I'll put it an order
post #152 of 194
Anyone else notice the new load line that implements a scaling vdroop like Intel?

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tbh even if i could use bulldozer on an AM3 socket board i wouldnt....upgrade for a motherboard made for it...plus isnt there going to be a 9 series chipset for bulldozer?
Outside of power delivery, what's the relevance to a "motherboard made for it"?

Motherboard's haven't been a significant factor in system performance on AMD systems since Socket A.

With an IMC, choice of motherboard comes down to power considerations, BIOS support, and the kind of slots/ports you want, and that's it.

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Still, I have to say. Investing in BD and handicapping it with an earlier NB chipset isn't an idea I'm interested in at all. If your trying to avoid spending alot initially in the transition. Get the AM3+ board, and use your AM3 cpu in it. Then get Zambezi later.
Earlier chipsets aren't a handicap by any practical measurement.

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There was some original aprehension about pin counts, but that was resolved. No one is saying an AM3+ FX cpu won't work in an AM3 board, they're saying it won't work to it's fullest ability, which may or may not include features that are important to you such as increased stability and voltage supply, both of which would surely affect overclocking. You may find a Bulldozer will overclock substantially higher in an AM3+ board than on an AM3... maybe even 32% higher?
Specification changes like this usually don't mean much for overclocking boards as most of them are already made to greatly exceed the minimum requirements.

There are some features, like the vrm switching frequency, and new load line, that aren't dependent on raw quality, but some AM3 boards should support these changes as well, with nothing more than a BIOS update.
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Specification changes like this usually don't mean much for overclocking boards as most of them are already made to greatly exceed the minimum requirements.

There are some features, like the vrm switching frequency, and new load line, that aren't dependent on raw quality, but some AM3 boards should support these changes as well, with nothing more than a BIOS update.
More of a question that a criticism. But wouldn't you consider a "overclocking" board for the next gen, like a CH V, to far exceed the AM3+ rather than the AM3 specifications and thus give you more OC headroom than a older board? Not to mention that going from Phenom to BD is a much bigger change then we have seen in nearly 10 years from AMD.
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Don't shoot me i read half of the post ihere going to be a list of am3 motherboards that you can use
the bulldozer and are they going to try and have new motherboards come out before the bulldozers


I read a little bit about it.
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Like I said before, that's if CPUz is reporting the correct information.

Either way, it doesn't matter.
Look at the windows system info and then the code break down chart.

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That CPU-Z shot is definitely fake
1. 1 core?
2. lol 32-bit OS
3. lol the PC is named "angelica-PC", if this was really a tester's PC...
4. NDA

I faked an AMD FX Series CPU-Z shot once, very easily, and people really believed it... (remember, April Fools day )
CPUZ has to be programmed to read much of the cpu info, you should note beside "selection" in the bottom left that says "processor #1" is not grayed out like typical 1p system so a drop down is there of more cores.
Being BD is a new arch. from anything seen before in x86 it's not far fetched that cpuz which has to be programmed to new arch. is reading it incorrect.
Remember older cpuz's read SB voltage wrong among many other previous cpu release's where it needed updating.
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It's a review in a foreign market. NDA may not cover their Review given that Bulldozer is less than tow months away from being launched in the States. We don't get EVERYTHING first. I only wish we did. But that's the Asian Market and I'm pretty sure they're launching about a Month before we are. I could be wrong but they do get a lot of things that we don't get.

912 Advanced and Plus anyone?

~Ceadder
Thats odd even us in AUS get the CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced it's $119.00
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Thats odd even us in AUS get the CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced it's $119.00
Tell me about it. But we don't have access to it. We can get Plus I believe but that's only through CoolerMaster directly. Which means overpaying for it and that's only if it's available on their site.

Me an my bro are trying to talk our mom into getting it cause she's got cats that will jump up on top of her system. The Thermaltake she has broke down after a year.

Well anyway back to the topic, the ASRock ad pretty much only applies to Mid to Entry level boards near as I can figure. And yeah I COULD wait til CVF is launched but that board won't be launched before Bulldozer arrives. It's highly unlikely that ASUS would launch CIVF/E boards at the tail end of the AM3 production run for Boards and then launch CVF just prior to BD.

Which is why they're working on a BIOS for the boards they announced would work with 3012. I'm not picking a fight, just using some common sense about the matter. I'm sure in a perfect world they would just have built AM3+ sockets onto their last run. But nothing in tech is perfect.

Hopefully it works out for everybody concerned.

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Yeah I hope that Gigabyte (after the bulldozer release) release a BIOS update for the 790x.

I have a Ga-790XTA-UD4 that is itching for it, I see that they have done a revision 3.1 for the 770 and 760 chipset.

I just hope i don't have to shell out again quite so soon for a new motherboard.
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i just hope it works well for my board.
when i broke all of my piggy banks for this board, i VOWED not to get another in 2-3 years, and i intend to keep my promise.

i wonder what features have been cut out for it to work in AM3?
    
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Actually, P55/1156 stuff was released on Chinese Retail shelves like 2 weeks early.
Yep, was just about to point that out..

I do hope that BD is released a few weeks earlier in Asia.
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