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Why would anyone buy a bulldozer chip and place it in a legacy board?

Upgrading to Bulldozer means just that, CPU and motherboard, anything less is a let down to the user. Just optimize what you already have and enjoy.
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post #52 of 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Electroneng View Post
Why would anyone buy a bulldozer chip and place it in a legacy board?

Upgrading to Bulldozer means just that, CPU and motherboard, anything less is a let down to the user. Just optimize what you already have and enjoy.
i agree 100%

but some people are tight with money.
i have no intentions of putting bd in my board lol.
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post #53 of 194
meh nothing new in this article....
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we recommend waiting as opposed to buying a board now with a plan to drop an AM3+ processor in it
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post #54 of 194
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Originally Posted by lurkingdevil View Post
I'm all for socket compatibility that AMD offers but at some point you gotta start thinking if its holding you back.

AM2+ processors were compatible with socket AM2. AM3 procesors were compatible with socket AM2+ and AM2.

Socket AM2 ran the athlon 64 x2 and phenom series of processors. Socket AM3 runs Phenom II X6 processors. Phenom II are a significant upgrade but still backwards compatible.

At some point one has to think how much different are the athlon 64 x2 and phenom II such that the phenom II can run in nearly the same environment as the athlon 64 x2..

Now we're hearing that bulldozer would run on AM3 which is not so different from AM2+/AM2.
Maybe a completely new socket/environment is required to produce a significat boost in performance which would obviously kill backwards compatibility. But I'm just talking out of my back and I may well be wrong.

Socket AM3 or not, I hope bulldozer kicks arse.

TL;DR: I think backwards compatibility is limiting AMD chips. Intel always puts out a new socket.
People don't seem to understand that judging a processor by its pins is akin to judging a monitor by one of its ports or a keyboard by its cable.

Unless the 9xx chipsets themselves are a significant improvement over 8xx, there's nothing to be gained from upgrading your board (given that it's not garbage already).

Although I will just 'cause I can.

EDIT: Next post is 666, give me evil ideas that won't get me banned.
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post #55 of 194
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Originally Posted by disturbed117 View Post
im not attacking you lol.
i just checked your systems just now lol.
amd needs some Catching up to do tho.
Oh I know you're not, and like I said, more tower is an AMD tower.

What you use as a system doesn't really have a basis for what you are talking about in terms of fact.

My first computer was an Intel P4 and an nVidia nForce 4 card. That doesn't mean I can't love my AMD/ATi hardware just as much.
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Originally Posted by Diabolical999 View Post
I thought Bulldozer was going to be pinless? How then could it work on socket AM3?
That's sockets G34 and C32
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isnt bulldozer just a code name?
the desktop versions will carry the name fx right?
FX will be teh name
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post #56 of 194
nice them bringing back the fx name is a good sign.
my first rig was an old celeron lol.
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post #57 of 194
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Yeah well hopefully we don't have a huge amount of PCB meltdowns with people OCing 8 core Bulldozer CPUs to the max on AM3 motherboards that can't handle that amount of heat being generated.
Can someone clarify this for me pls. What difference does OCing a 125w 8 core bulldozer make in relation to a 125w 6 core phenom 2? They are both rated as 125w so if an am3 mobo can handle the latter surely it can handle the former as well no?
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post #58 of 194
depends on how many volts the chips run at maybe?
i have no clue.
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post #59 of 194
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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
That could be one issue that people might have to deal with, but what I have said before is the fact that MAYBE, as others have said, that certain features might not/will not work on an AM3 platform, like turbo core speeds, power management, and maybe others not known at this time. I got mega flamed for saying just sit and wait to see what it all means, but the Asus fanboys ran with it and caused a huge mess. Thanks guys!
Yeah but this is Overclock.net, most people here including yourself don't give a hoot about turbo core speeds and power management, we are all about performance!

As long as it works and as long as it overclocks I'm not concerned.
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post #60 of 194
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Originally Posted by Armand Hammer View Post
Yeah but this is Overclock.net, most people here including yourself don't give a hoot about turbo core speeds and power management, we are all about performance!

As long as it works and as long as it overclocks I'm not concerned.
Well said, buddy.
 
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