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Originally Posted by JCPUser;13229615 
Yeah, we are basically saying the same thing, tongue.gif

Don't mind the mini flame war:cool: I just got a bit annoyed with the whole "ASUS is going to force AMD to support this or that" vibe he had going because that is very likely not true.

As for what actually is true...well only 6 more weeks wink.gif

No flame war. Not unless we're Clocking and I don't know it. post-flame-small.gif

Bro we've been saying the same thing all along. I don't know how you got on the idea that I've been saying something counter to what you've said but it's time to give you a wink.gifwink.gif nudge nudge. biggrin.gif

However the Motherboard Manufacturers will be forcing the issue. Not at gunpoint or anything mind you. Just by all of them getting in line and doing the same thing and that's creating a BIOS that will work with an AM3 board and an AM3+ CPU. AMD won't have any choice but to go along because they are in the business to make money just like everyone else.

the reason it forces them to is because they would sell more CPUs' to EVERYBODY than just the "Enthusiast" crowd. They aren't taking into account tired aging systems in need of replacement. Those people that know their systems need to be replaced and wanting something that is in their price range and not have to spend alot to get 32nm architecture in their case. Don't even have to purchase an Enthusiast board to do it either if they go that route.

That's how it forces AMD to offer support for it. I think you're taking my thought and applying the wrong context to it. Sorry if I hadn't been entirely clear. mellowsmiley.gif

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So we know as much as we did weeks ago when these mobo companies were first making the announcements. Nothing has changed except maybe AMD telling them to ****.
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recent info from ASRock-must read
http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2011am3%2B/
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman;13230182 
No flame war. Not unless we're Clocking and I don't know it. post-flame-small.gif

Bro we've been saying the same thing all along. I don't know how you got on the idea that I've been saying something counter to what you've said but it's time to give you a wink.gifwink.gif nudge nudge. biggrin.gif

However the Motherboard Manufacturers will be forcing the issue. Not at gunpoint or anything mind you. Just by all of them getting in line and doing the same thing and that's creating a BIOS that will work with an AM3 board and an AM3+ CPU. AMD won't have any choice but to go along because they are in the business to make money just like everyone else.

the reason it forces them to is because they would sell more CPUs' to EVERYBODY than just the "Enthusiast" crowd. They aren't taking into account tired aging systems in need of replacement. Those people that know their systems need to be replaced and wanting something that is in their price range and not have to spend alot to get 32nm architecture in their case. Don't even have to purchase an Enthusiast board to do it either if they go that route.

That's how it forces AMD to offer support for it. I think you're taking my thought and applying the wrong context to it. Sorry if I hadn't been entirely clear. mellowsmiley.gif

~Ceadder:drink:

I think "persuasion" is the word you're looking for. wink.gif

I used to have a link to AMD's mission statement but not anymore since that whole CEO leaving fiasco (forgot his name already frown.gif ). But I'm sure AMD could easily be persuaded by bringing the phrase "value for the consumers" in the equation. This is of course if the current board members are still adhering to the old mission statement they followed for so many years.
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^^^Hey man, my bro runs the same MoBo you do. I'm surprised I hadn't noticed that til now. tongue.gif

And you are correct, but I like "forced" because that's pretty much how it's going. AMD wanted a new socket, they'll get their damned socket, but not at the expense of the consumer that buys from the MoBo manufacturers. Win for everybody involved. biggrin.gif lulz
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Originally Posted by Redwoodz;13230951 
recent info from ASRock-must read
http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2011am3%2B/

That doesn't help a damned thing since ASRock is a subdivision of ASUS. It seems they're playing both sides against the middle.rolleyes.gif

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Seriously, that really marketed the whole AM3+ boards by a lot. Certainly refuted what I said.

So now I wonder if maybe Asrock is ready to sell AM3+ boards but ASUS boards... there's still a lot of AM3 boards they need to get off the shelves?
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Seriously, that really marketed the whole AM3+ boards by a lot. Certainly refuted what I said.

So now I wonder if maybe Asrock is ready to sell AM3+ boards but ASUS boards... there's still a lot of AM3 boards they need to get off the shelves?

Which board did they test it against though? That has everything to do with their statistical "evidence". Not to mention what CPU was their testbench mated to?

To me that's CLEARLY to further their selling the AM3+ boards to everyone who isn't "taken in" by the ASUS division Taiwan announcement. It wouldn't surprise me if ASUS has a whole run of AM3+ board in production just up to the RoG platforms.

The whole idea behind the BIOS is to guarantee their share by allowing the Enthusiast on a fixed income the ability to get their Bulldozer and run it and then get the newer platform later on. There is nothing wrong with that since there are a lot more of us fixed income types in the world. wink.gif

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http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2011am3%2B/

ASRock seems to think differently about this whole subject.
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*snip*

ASRock seems to think differently about this whole subject.

OMG, you need to read the thread. Someone already posted this link and it's being addressed. Thanks for playing.rolleyes.gif

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Originally Posted by Ceadderman;13231749 
OMG, you need to read the thread. Someone already posted this link and it's being addressed. Thanks for playing.rolleyes.gif

~Ceadder:drink:

Cross post moron. Thought I would add it to this thread, and add more information but NOOOOOO, Cheddar Cheese does not like any of my posts and feels the need to once again make himself look good and belittle a poster. Rot in hell toolbag. wth.gif
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