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well look at it this way then.
1 side you have malware to got pass your av coz it has admin rights it can do whatever it wants to do. So your av got no chance. Next boot av protection gone.

Then the otherside. Having it in a limited users account it can not run rampant and destroy the data on your pc and make it hard to remove because it doesn't have access. It can't hide taskmanager. It can disable the reg tools. It can't install itself as a service. It can't go configure the firewall like it wants to. It can't install itself as a rootkit. It can't disable your antivirus. It can't start before your av so its contained and easy to remove. All those I mentioned what I will do when I'm a trojan gets nullified. It can't do all those things coz it doesn't have the rights to do it. You'll see the features of that crypter its got UAC features but it doesn't have the features to make itself a admin or system process in a limited users account.
Yes, but the links you are posting have nothing to do with what you're talking about. If an AV has a signature for a piece of malware, it will detect it whether it's running in an admin or user account.
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Ok guys I'm a trojan lets see which of your securities can stop me.

A.installation:
1.in general Trojans install it self in c:\\windows or c:\\windows\\system32
2.if i am a dll Trojan it will probably named under a random name in every machine to hard the removal
3.if i am a .exe Trojan i will hide my self using attributes "hide" and "system"
4.i will drop my self in less suspected folders like c:\\program files\\windows mediaplayer
B.spreading:
1.i will copy my self to all available partitions and removable media* with autorun.inf files
C.payload:
i will name the payloads that don't go by removing the Trojans
1.compromises network security
2.compromises system security
3.disable services
4.modify HOSTS file
5.modify system registry
6.disable system restore
7..................................
D.protect my self:
there are lots of tools that will be used to remove me,so i will protect my self against malware removers and their tools"im not named Spooony now because i am the Trojan now"
1.i will modify the HOSTS and registry to block the user from entering security vendors websites
2.i will terminate(or try to) the exist anti virus,or the analyzing tools"debuggers,monitor tools,......"
3.i will use root kits methods to hide my self
4.i will run my self as a service
5.change the policies on the system so the user wont be able to use system standard tools to get rid of me
6.i will pack my self"that comodo cant mess any packed program flag as suspicious,but i don't think there is a any body running comodo anti virus"
7.i will make my self trusted for the great windows firewall
8.disable safeboot
9.so am i protected or not there are more advanced things I can do but don't wanna give some ideas now.

I bet ill be messing up 99 percent of this forums pcs in no time paid security or not
Reformat.....problem solved
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MS Security Essentials hands down.
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Yes, but the links you are posting have nothing to do with what you're talking about. If an AV has a signature for a piece of malware, it will detect it whether it's running in an admin or user account.
yes it does. i proved to you how easy HIPS get bypassed

Anyways for those who were wondering



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yes it does. i proved to you how easy HIPS get bypassed
Where is this proof? I see none.
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MS Essentials. /thread
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I have used Free edition of Avira for the last 4 years. It is nice and lightweight and has a very small foot print. The free edition has a pop up that comes up every 24hrs to advertise purchasing the paid version. You can actually disable that without issue (just google search how to do it)

I havent had anything sneak by Avira on my PC or any of my friends that I have installed avira on.
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Where is this proof? I see none.
Look at the first link

It gets detected.
Second link same file Comodo doesnt detect it. Ill send you a av testing file and i can bet you bottom dollar it wont be detected.
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Look at the first link

It gets detected.
Second link same file Comodo doesnt detect it. Ill send you a av testing file and i can bet you bottom dollar it wont be detected.
I'm getting real tired of going in circles with you. So what? You run a file through a crypter and COMODO's AV can no longer detect it until it adds that signature into its database. We've already established that that is what crypters do and that I am not talking about AV's. COMODO's HIPS will still detect it when it executes...HIPS is not an AV.
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Microsoft Security Essentials since it has anti-virus + anti-spyware.
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