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Firstly, I'm sorry for the delay in responding to you. I didn't even notice you replied directly to me until today when I re-read the entire thread. Now then, down to business...

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Google Docs? That's your solution? The formatting options they offer are limited at best.
Have you ever even used Google Documents? Perhaps I'm no where near the power-document-user you are, but I have yet to see much of any difference between it in the creation of documents. I have found that the spreadsheet graph function is a bit more limited, but that'd be the only thing I can think of that is different besides the usual "things are in different places" issue that you get between any software suite.

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Try creating custom headings, inserting section breaks, using page numbers or even grammar checking with Google Docs.
I've never used custom headings (I have used custom headers, which Google Documents seems to support); I've never used a "section" break, but I have used a line breaks/horizontal lines, which Google Documents supports, as well as page breaks; I've used page numbering before, feel free to review how to set it up here: http://docs.google.com/support/bin/a...&answer=83321; and I do not rely on spelling/grammatical checking software when I am typing up something important. I proofread my work, and then normally try and get a friend (one that is good at proofreading) to review it. When it is for work, I have a co-worker in the department (one that understands the terminology used in the industry, specifically) to proofread my work.

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QuickOffice is just that, something to make quick, light and minor documents, spread sheets and power point presentations. Plus it's well known that many formatting features don't go over too well when opening Office files in QuickOffice.
Is that so? I've never used Quick Office, so it's good to know it's not worth the money. Thankfully, I overlooked that this tablet comes with a dedicated office suite called Polaris Document Master, which from what I've seen, is powerful enough for most needs. Feel free to try it out, and prove me wrong, though!

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No, $50 dollars less is not a good compromise for extended battery life because again, how productive can you be on a device with nothing but an onscreen keyboard and touch interface.
I had the exact same opinion in regards to on screen keyboards from the longest of time, but with a few weeks of only using the on screen keyboard on my Droid 2 Global, I have found that I never open the physical keyboard any longer. My next phone will be a candy-bar non-sliding non-physical keyboard phone as I can easily use an on screen keyboard to do most basic work that is required, and likely would be able to get pretty good at doing as much given some practice.

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I would LOVE to see you type up a 15 page term paper on a tablet that's laying flat on your desk with only a touch screen keyboard. I GUARANTEE the experience will be tedious and you'll be begging for a laptop or desktop after page 3. But hey, you save $50 bucks and the extended battery life should come in handy since it will take you an extra long time to type that thing up (that is if your hands and wrists don't cramp up first).
First off, why would you lay it flat on your desk? It's a portable device, so take it to a comfy couch or chair, and use it on your lap, perhaps on a pillow if you think that it would be too low. If you WANT to type it at a desk, don't be a fool about such things: Prop it up, perhaps using a book, or a small pillow, to give yourself an optimal viewing/typing angle.

Secondly, there is a reason that there is a keyboard docking station for this device. In the case of people that want the physical keyboard, and the extended battery life, you can have as much.

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Not only typing, but how about creating a 20 slide power point presentation with nothing but a touch interface? Let's be serious now.
A touch interface would likely be a whole lot easier to use, given some practice, compared to the less-intuitive mouse/keyboard based interface. It's the same reason that optical input devices are a whole lot easier to do, and faster, and will replace the mouse within a decade or so.

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All of my points still stand.
No, they do not, but that's ok. This is a matter of opinion. Your opinion is wrong, I believe, and you believe my opinion is wrong. Thankfully, no one will force you to purchase this device, so you're free to keep on believing exactly that until the Singularity or whatnot.

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You're basically buying a $550 dollar 10in netbook, but with sever limitations.
All of your ideas regarding limitations (as you see them, of course) dealt with the 399$ tablet only version (minus your misconceptions about Google Documents and the office suite included on the device).

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For the same price I can get a $400 dollar 15in laptop and a 3 license version of Office 2010 for $150.
So, you're suggesting you can get a laptop for 250$, eh? Let's see...

A quick search on Newegg shows two laptops between 219$ and 264$, being an out of stock "Recertified: DELL Latitude D620 (D620 60gb XPP 1.8GHZ) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600(1.83GHz) 14.1" 1GB" which is a really nice laptop (I have three of them, and even though they are not fifteen inch displays [14.1"], they are still rather good for what they do) although the battery life is a few hours at best. The second laptop is a "Recertified: Apple iBook G4 PowerPC G4 1.33GHz 12.1" 512MB Memory 40GB HDD ATI Mobility Radeon 9550", which seems to be in stock, but is a 12.1" display, and, futhermore, a Mac (which I do not care for, personally).

Checking with Best Buy, you would be likely going with the "Toshiba - Satellite Laptop / Intel® Celeron® Processor / 15.6" Display / 3GB Memory / 250GB Hard Drive - Black", which is only 300$ (still fifty dollars out of your price range, though), but not a bad laptop. It'll be bottlenecked by the processor pretty quickly, though, as I have used them often enough to know that the single core single thread processor is not all that fast at all, considering that it is running a full version of Windows 7, which is a massive resource hog compared to Android 3.

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Like I said before, tablets are still considered to be for casual use.
I would consider them to be fully functional for all but the most harsh tasks, but then again, opinions, right?

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They're huge smartphones, only without the phone.
Actually, both the Xoom and iPad both have the ability to use 3G access, if my memory serves me correctly. Besides that, though, I agree with you: They ARE "merely" large mobile OS running devices. That's part of the reason they're so useful.

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They're stripped down note/netbooks but still cost the same.
They are not "stripped down" [net/note]books at all. They are devices designed from the ground up to be mobile OS running mobile devices. They take advantage of the mobile form factor that most [net/note]books cannot properly use.

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People are fawning over these things simply because they "look cool", but until major software changes are made or the cost of these things come down, IMHO they're still over priced, underdeveloped "latest fad" items.
So, you want them all to run a full copy of Windows 7 OS (which, unless you are using Home Premium, I believe, has very little in the way of tablet-style functionality) so they can run a full copy of Microsoft Office? Well, there goes any higher-battery life you could expect out of the devices, in that case.

From the little I have seen about the Polaris Document Master, it appears to be functional enough to be used for a person wanting to deal with most document situations. Evidently, you are a special case, and require special handling, which means you'll likely want a Windows 7 running device so you can run the latest Microsoft Office. I'm sure you'll find a way to deal with the lack of a battery life, though.

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And that's fine. I wouldn't mind having a tablet for these activities as well like surfing the web or reading an article here and there. I just don't think paying $400 for something I'm going to use casually is justified.
Do you think that those people that purchased the original Kindle felt the same way? Or that people like you thought the same thing, when looking at it, and saying "Wait, but it can ONLY read books for 400$?!" It's nice that Kindles are now cusping on the 100$ and lower market, which they'll likely hit before the end of the year. Hopefully tablet units make as much headway in price, which it appears that they are.

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I'm actually thinking about the same thing... The only thing I would want to know is if the Polaris office documents would open in MS office?
As per the Wikipedia page on the Polaris Document Master, located here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Document_Master, it evidently supports normal Microsoft OFfice document formats.
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Has anyone purchased one of these yet? If so, what are your impressions?
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Has anyone purchased one of these yet? If so, what are your impressions?
If TigerDirect or Walmart ever decides to ship mine, I'll have one (or two) hopefully by this weekend
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Has anyone purchased one of these yet? If so, what are your impressions?
Most people don't since Asus only stocked like 5 to each retailer, did not ship it to any retailers (beilebe me I've asked MANY about their inventory) and are trying dirty apple marketing tactics of doing a product run and make people think they sell like hot cakes. what's funny is that their missing out on slot of profit, like you and I.

Dirty marketing ploys earn a fail in my book. Asus I'm dissapointed, as an owner of a few mobs, netbooks, laptops and a desktop by you I expected more than this.
     
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