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Ok, so per this thread, I was already having problems with my GTX 460.

I decided to swap in my HD4850 as a replacement after ripping out all the nvidia drivers, driver sweeping the remains, then putting on the Catalysts for the HD4850.

This is when things decided to go to hell.
  1. I had already started noticing some odd keyboard-responsiveness issues in Waterfox even in the GTX 460 situation.
  2. After the installation of Catalysts I got consistent bluescreens involving atikmdag, or something very similarly named.
  3. I decided to try and see if the problem could be traced to lingering issues in the Vista x64 install, so I blew it away, and tried Win7.
  4. Well, in Win7, I would consistently get BSODs just after entering the PC name in the "name this PC" screen.
  5. As a last ditch, I decided to try and back off the memory timings to 9-9-9-24 from 8-8-8-24. I was able to get Win7 to install, but there were serious problems - the display would black-out, recover, black-out, recover - almost as though something were trying to redraw the Win7 desktop and was trying to reset the Aero status.
  6. So then I decided perhaps the nut on the heatsink backplate might be loose. So I tightened it up and now the AHCI controller won't see my Samsung 750 gig drive in AHCI mode anymore. Setting it to IDE mode causes the drive to be detected again.

Given the multitude of problems here, should I point my finger at the power supply or at the motherboard? I have a Pentium Dual Core E6700 system on a P35 motherboard I can put in as a backup and can use to test the HD4850 and make sure it's not broken, and I can use it to test the AHCI mode in Vista or Win7, but I won't be able to check if my DDR3 RAM (two sets of Kingston DDR3-1333) is bad or not.

I am so frustrated with this.
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There are too many problems really, so on your spare rig you should test as much things as you can. True you won't be able to separate between the RAM & mobo, but from experience I've never heard of a RAM fault that makes a HDD work only in AHCI or IDE mode, it's usually the board.
Once you know the PSU, GPU and the HDD work fine on the spare rig you're left between the RAM & the board. You can just try default BIOS settings and run on one RAM stick at a time, boot from the HIREN BOOTCD (google it) and run memetest on each RAM module. If in the same RAM slot some RAM modules fail and some don't - it's the RAM; if all RAM fail in one slot and not in others it's the RAM slot; if all RAM sticks fail everywhere the board or the CPU are dead (since the CPU has the memory controller).

good luck debugging
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back up your files and do a clean install. Debug from there otherwise you might be chasing software/driver gliches
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Like dragosmp said, test everything seperately in another rig if possible (at least the GPU and RAM). You can also run Memtest86+ on the RAM to check for errors. I'm going to say bad RAM and possibly a bad GPU. You may also want to check for bent pins in the CPU socket.
post #5 of 6
clear the CMOS (i think thats what it is, someone verify) by setting your jumper on pins 2-3 then boot. turn off PC, set jumpers back to pins 1-2 setting everything in the BIOS to default. try running windows.
make sure everything is properly seated. all power is plugged and no pins are loose. try using 1 stick of RAM at a time. try another power supply.

sounds like you have a serious problem here. ive had some serious problems too. once i figured stuff out i let out a huge sigh of relief.
Edited by Darqside - 4/22/11 at 3:09am
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Ok. I've confirmed that at least with the E6700, the HD4850 is fine. I also replaced the Hyper 212+ with a Scythe heatsink/fan which has the "standard" LGA1156 pushpins. I did not see any damage to the motherboard from the Hyper 212+ but I did see that the heatsink compound did not spread quite as evenly as I expected.

That being said the Scythe works fine with i5s at stock speeds so I have ruled out the heatsink as a possible cause of the problems experienced above, since I still couldn't get the Samsung 750 GB to detect in AHCI mode (but surprise, it detected fine in AHCI mode on my Asrock P35 board).

The final test will be to transplant this working E6700 system into the Storm Scout with the XFX PSU and if I experience any instabilities or strange issues then I can point to the PSU as the culprit. However I am starting to suspect either a dodgy motherboard or a dodgy CPU (that said I know dodgy CPUs are very rare, but I don't have the money to get another P55 motherboard to rule out CPU issues).

EDIT to note that my RMAed GTX460 worked flawlessly with my E6700 system.
Edited by Quantum Reality - 8/18/11 at 11:32am
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