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Go with an SSD + F3, it really works nicely. That's the setup I use. You get the best of both worlds.
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post #12 of 38
SSD for OS and apps and 1 x Samsung F3 for storage and games.

The SSD will be one of the best improvements you can do to your system.

EDIT:

Also, are you still on xp? Get Win7 if you haven't already.

Edited by 4Brand - 4/22/11 at 10:37am
    
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Originally Posted by Cyph3r View Post
Take it from someone who has a 2x F3 setup.

If youre getting an SSD and 1x F3 for storage, there is NO reason to go with 2x F3's.

This is the HDTune results from my setup thats been shortstroked to 500gb;

well actually there is, like i said my budget is tight, so if SSD set up is really better i would get it, but if not much difference then i would still go with 2xf3's. can u show a graph of the SSD's result on HDTune also?
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SSD for OS and apps and 1 x Samsung F3 for storage and games.

The SSD will be one of the best improvements you can do to your system.

Also, are you still on xp? Get Win7 if you haven't already.
oh no im using an old laptop right now, this question is for my new build right after my ap exams
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post #15 of 38
Get an SSD if you can deal with the small capacity. I personally need 200-250G on my main application drive to not feel cramped, but there are many people that can make do with less. 60gigs is really low though, win7 is going to be 20 gigs or so, and games are what, 10GB each now? I'd get the 120gb if you can make spend the extra money, you'll be able to get much more use out of it.

As far as hard drives go, 2x shortstroked F3s are really quick (I've got a pair), but SSDs are on a totally different level of performance due to access times being over 100 times faster.
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what is the write/read speed for the f3?
This is them in RAID1:



I'm about to put them in RAID0 as soon as I'm done backing up the image of the drive.
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Get an SSD if you can deal with the small capacity. I personally need 200-250G on my main application drive to not feel cramped, but there are many people that can make do with less. 60gigs is really low though, win7 is going to be 20 gigs or so, and games are what, 10GB each now? I'd get the 120gb if you can make spend the extra money, you'll be able to get much more use out of it.

As far as hard drives go, 2x shortstroked F3s are really quick (I've got a pair), but SSDs are on a totally different level of performance due to access times being over 100 times faster.
100 times faster? i actually did not know that.
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This is them in RAID1:



I'm about to put them in RAID0 as soon as I'm done backing up the image of the drive.
thank you
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thank you
No problem. I'll post the RAID0 numbers when I get it switched over. It's going to be a little bit though.
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100 times faster? i actually did not know that.
He said access times, not throughput. But yes, it's actually > 100 times faster. The best access times you'll get on an HDD is if you short stroke a large raided set of drives to like 5% of their capacity, and then the best you'll ever get is about 8ms (so if you raided 2 F3 1TBs, you'd have 100gigs of usable space).

The average SSD has a real world seek time of between .1 and .2ms depending on various factors.

So in the best HDD scenario (in which you've sacrificed all size value) an SSD is about 40 to 80 times faster. If you don't short stroke then SSD will be > 100 times faster at seeking. Just one of the many many benefits of an SSD.

SSD + 1TB is semi-ideal as a set up. THere's little to no point to putting games on an SSD as the gains are minimal. A small OS + App drive is by far the best use, in terms of systsem response time, multi-tasking, rebooting (not sure why this is the only thing people mention), application pull up time, and so on. Whilst leaving games to boot off the larger slower (but still fast) HDD.
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