Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › Best Non-Refernce GTX 570
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Best Non-Refernce GTX 570 - Page 5

post #41 of 58
I love the triple fan Gigabyte ,I really shot myself in the foot ,jumping and buying a 570 the first 3 days they hit the Egg. The Twin Frozer is kickass as always ,But If I could do a Re-do ,I would go Gigabyte triple fan , now I am banging my head ,waiting to get another Zalman Vf3000f for another $80(what a loss). I mean ,There are more cards out there now than I have ever seen ! It is really a buyers market!
post #42 of 58
The difference between the clocks on the 560/570/580 are just the tip of the iceberg on the differences there.

Overclocking is definitely worth it. (did you expect a different answer from a site called overclock.net?) My 570 at 900/1800/2100 will outperform any stock 580 in most games where VRAM isn't limited, while costing $150 less. Now, the 580 overclocks too, but my point stands, overclockers get value out of their cards.
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
post #43 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantasmor;13235112 
well.... from that i learn 2 things:

1. the 570 has a 100mhz lower core clock than the 560, but i assume that the same is true for the 580, more than likely it is even lower

2. stability is not everything, but i kind of figured that, i just wanted people to confirm it

now new question, i knew overclocking was dangerous before, but now i am thinking that it may be really, really worth it if you don't push it too far, and that you need a really good card, which is random(again all of this i considered before but now seems a lot clearer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_500_Series

No, The default 580 clock is higher. Clock speeds are not the only factors on performance though. If that were the case the 550 Ti would be the fastest card. I'm not really that educated on the other cards to tell you everything about them.

Overclocking is definitely worth it. It's a fun (yet stressful and time consuming) hobby and it has always been worth it if you educate yourself on what you're doing. These forums hold a wealth of information and is great resource for getting started.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cutty1998;13235165 
I love the triple fan Gigabyte ,I really shot myself in the foot ,jumping and buying a 570 the first 3 days they hit the Egg. The Twin Frozer is kickass as always ,But If I could do a Re-do ,I would go Gigabyte triple fan , now I am banging my head ,waiting to get another Zalman Vf3000f for another $80(what a loss). I mean ,There are more cards out there now than I have ever seen ! It is really a buyers market!

Might have been the best choice at launch, but I would stay away from any reference 570 at this point. No reason not to.
Edited by gl0ry - 4/22/11 at 5:59pm
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by gl0ry;13235264 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_500_Series

No, The default 580 clock is higher. Clock speeds are not the only factors on performance though. If that were the case the 550 Ti would be the fastest card. I'm not really that educated on the other cards to tell you everything about them.

Overclocking is definitely worth it. It's a fun (yet stressful and time consuming) hobby and it has always been worth it if you educate yourself on what you're doing. These forums hold a wealth of information and is great resource for getting started.

yeah, i wish i could pin down what actually does make a graphics card better than another......
post #45 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantasmor;13235431 
yeah, i wish i could pin down what actually does make a graphics card better than another......

the GFLOPs on the wiki page is a measure of the performance from each card. Honestly if you're in the market to buy a new video card, you should do your research. Read reviews and look at benchmarks.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

You should bookmark that link. It is a fantastic resource for quick comparison and contrast.
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by gl0ry;13235510 
the GFLOPs on the wiki page is a measure of the performance from each card. Honestly if you're in the market to buy a new video card, you should do your research. Read reviews and look at benchmarks.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

You should bookmark that link. It is a fantastic resource for quick comparison and contrast.

yeah, i am not stupid, i know what benches what and how everything compares, but i am still trying to figure out the why of gpus and cpus.... i am closer to the why on cpus though....
post #47 of 58
hey, just a question but would putting a 570 at 1.1v do any harm to it, i don't think that they would let you if it would damage the card....... but what i am really asking is, how far is pushing it with voltage? what is the limit?
post #48 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantasmor;13236584 
hey, just a question but would putting a 570 at 1.1v do any harm to it, i don't think that they would let you if it would damage the card....... but what i am really asking is, how far is pushing it with voltage? what is the limit?

If it is a DCII/TFIII/Phantom or Sonic, not noticeably. Might shorten the lifespan by a bit, but you're not going to blow the card. Reference card? You're playing Russian roulette. If it's a non-reference, it won't flinch under 1.1v, and will probably handle 1.2, but at 1.2 you're going to seriously shorten its lifespan. Just my opinion, but unless I've got a second card handy, I'm not going past 1.175 on my DCII. (Once I have a better CPU the card is getting pushed further)

Also monitor the temps, the lower you keep the temps, the longer the card will last (insert the DCII's ability to run cooler than TFIII here...).
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
post #49 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Apocalypse-;13236648 
If it is a DCII/TFIII/Phantom or Sonic, not noticeably. Might shorten the lifespan by a bit, but you're not going to blow the card. Reference card? You're playing Russian roulette. If it's a non-reference, it won't flinch under 1.1v, and will probably handle 1.2, but at 1.2 you're going to seriously shorten its lifespan. Just my opinion, but unless I've got a second card handy, I'm not going past 1.175 on my DCII. (Once I have a better CPU the card is getting pushed further)

Also monitor the temps, the lower you keep the temps, the longer the card will last (insert the DCII's ability to run cooler than TFIII here...).

when you say "shorten the lifespan.... you mean what? i want it to last 5-6 maybe even 8 years maybe, not within the 3 year warranty...... when i upgrade i want to make sure it is because the stuff is slow, not because the stuff has failed!
Edited by phantasmor - 4/22/11 at 8:15pm
post #50 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantasmor;13236727 
when you say "shorten the lifespan.... you mean what? i want it to last 5-6 maybe even 8 years maybe, not within the 3 year warranty...... when i upgrade i want to make sure it is because the stuff is slow, not because the stuff has failed!

1.1 is fine and safe. If it weren't they wouldn't have given you that leniency in the default bios. I seriously doubt you'll shorten the lifespan. The major concern is whether or not you have a reference 570. If you do have a reference, then yes. Using higher volts than stock can cause it to literally die due to bad design/flaw.

What he is talking about though is CPU/GPU degradation. I think I covered that earlier in a post to you.

As far as what the max voltage is, no one really knows, but if you want to be safe stick with 1.1v or lower. To access any higher than 1.1 requires a bios flash anyways.

Stop scaring the new guy Apoc, lol.
Edited by gl0ry - 4/22/11 at 8:28pm
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
Bladestorm Z
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k @ 5ghz [1.4v] MSI Z77 MPOWER MSI GeForce GTX 1070 @ +225/+450 Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB @ 2200mhz [1.5v] 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 SSD Custom Water Loop Windows 10 Professional x64 2x Debezeled QNIX QX2710 [77hz] 
PowerCase
Corsair AX860i Corsair 600T SE 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › Best Non-Refernce GTX 570