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After much googling and tinkering with way too many settings I'm here for a recommendation on yet another router...

I'll be running the router in AP mode and as a switch simultaneously. Before I jump in my knowledge about wireless N is a bit limited as I've been messing with wireless B/G for years. So maybe it's just truly not perfected yet and I'm expecting too much?

The router I'm replacing is the beloved WRT54GL which does EXCELLENT coverage around my whole house.

I'd really prefer a router just in case my pfsense box goes whack one day, I can have an easy backup solution.

This is how it'll be setup:

Modem > pfsense > [new router in AP mode] > switch > wired machines

Note: All equipment is upstairs.

Recently I jumped ship and bought the highly praised Buffalo WZR-HP-300NH. It's a DECENT router the range on it is very good however I can't reach their theoretical advertised 300 Mbps on anything that I own. Maybe cuz it's only 2.4 Ghz? not sure? Can any of you with the same router share some settings you have that could help out?

I read on the DD-WRT forum the DD-WRT firmware limits the wireless N throughput to 130 Mbps.

So I also tried flashing the *gasp* stock Buffalo firmware to try and achieve this and tinkered around in the settings to no avail.

My dad's laptop kept disconnecting overnight with it while it streams a live video feed as well so I said let's try a different router.

So... I went and also picked up a Linksys E3000... hmm this thing is giving a bit more speed & is more stable but still not getting the "300 Mbps". Also I'm losing WAN to LAN bandwidth with this router and the range on this thing is mediocre at best. I get full bandwidth on speed tests sometimes and others I get half O_O. I don't know if flashing to DD-WRT is really worth it or not for this router at this point I'm kind of wanting a set it and forget it type router/AP.

Basically I'm really looking for a stock firmware ready to go, good signal, awesome speed solution more or less. I know it can be done !!

Budget: up to $150 including tax etc. I'm trying to keep this a local buy if it doesn't meet my expectations I can go return it. I have a Microcenter nearby & Best Buy

I've also looked at:ASUS RT-N56U & NetGear N600 WNDR3700-100NAS

Suggestions please?
Edited by mbp - 4/22/11 at 3:15pm
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Go with the ASUS RT-N56U I'll be picking one up today at fry's.

yeaaaa
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post #3 of 18
You aren't going to get 300 mbps actual throughput.
Also, you're stuck at 130 Mbps unless you bump your channel width to 40 Mhz.

Last, there is no 'ap switch mode'. A wireless router is simply an integrated router, switch and AP. The AP already hangs off of the switch end internally.
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hmm alright alright let me edit the post to be technically correct wasn't sure what to call it. When I get home I'll try loading DD-WRT back on the Buffalo and see if I can change to 40 Mhz. Too many settings to remember what I tried at this point.

Also to clear up the question about the transmit rate. When I check the speeds I'm getting 130 mbps on the Buffalo and the Linksys gives me 144.4 mbps on Windows and around 175 mbps max on my Macbook. Shouldn't it atleast reach the 200s?

My room is upstairs maybe 30 feet away from the router location that's why I'm a bit confused here...
Edited by mbp - 4/22/11 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by Lunaticgts View Post
Go with the ASUS RT-N56U I'll be picking one up today at fry's.

yeaaaa
After you get it let me know how it works out for you if possible. I'm stuck at work til 11PM today so I won't be returning/purchasing until tomorrow.
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Check this out:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwa...66-5-ghz-up-40

You won't go wrong with either routers.
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Check this out:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwa...66-5-ghz-up-40

You won't go wrong with either routers.
Thanks for that, my Buffalo WZR 300NH just took a dump recently and I need to find another one.

That Netgear at the top looks really nice.
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thanks for the link darksideleader there's some good reviews on that site
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I'm gonna go ahead and post this link up it educated me pretty well on wireless N.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wirel...w-80211n-speed
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833122326
I've stress tested the hell out of these in the past and not even a hint lag. It meets your budget and is probably one of the best I've worked with.
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